Weak TP?

[LateFlag]

This is a pretty good-sized pot. It's worth running the small risk of giving a free card to protect your hand with a check/raise.

Edit: And people sometimes say that SSHE no longer applies to online games.

[tiltaholic]

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For the flop C/Rs, don't you think the risk is that I'm giving 4 lots of over O/Cs a free draw?

If I'm c/o on a 5 way pot with AJ or somesuch, I'm going to be strongly tempted to take the free card because the fold equity is so low.

Still, it's definitely something I should consider...

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don't project your (in this case weak tight) playing tendancies onto your opponents. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
you're in perfect relative position for a c/r...
leading can also be good, particularly if you had a specific read on CO that he is weak and likely to check this through.

[britspin]

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don't project your (in this case weak tight) playing tendancies onto your opponents. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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LOL! That's fair. This hand felt wrong the whole way through, and I was very much bugged by the rubbish way I played it.

Though this may havbe been influenced by the fact I folded the turn and after a K river UTG turned over Q5 and CO A8. Gah.

MH(WHB)G.

OK, the more I think about it, the more I like the CR. Of course, there's the chance I'm looking at an overpair from CO, but I can see why making the callers face 2 bets is the right way to go.

[TimovieMan]

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Though this may havbe been influenced by the fact I folded the turn and after a K river UTG turned over Q5 and CO A8. Gah.

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I hope you made some good notes on both UTG and CO, 'cause you just got a lot of info on their play...

[britspin]

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Though this may havbe been influenced by the fact I folded the turn and after a K river UTG turned over Q5 and CO A8. Gah.

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I hope you made some good notes on both UTG and CO, 'cause you just got a lot of info on their play...

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Very true.... after this setback it turned into a very profitable stay at the table and UTG in particular now resides firmly on my buddy list.

[KaatzMeow]

Grunch:

Preflop: As played but with 4 others in the pot, need to hit a good draw to continue after the Flop.

Flop: Hit TPWK with 4 to follow, I check to the PFR with the intention to call down. If it is 2 to me I let it go. I compute 4 outs for us and if there are no raises back to me, we have just enough odds to peel.

Turn: With 4 other players still in and having 3 outs now getting 14:1 pot odds in a huge pot, conventional wisdom says we peel with just the right odds but we could hit our out and still be 2nd best. In real life I would fold but I bet many would say peel. I would get to this position in the first place though...hehe

[LukeSLTS]

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there's the chance I'm looking at an overpair from CO

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Yes there is that chance but against most opponents they will let you know by three betting the flop. At that point you can knowing you have to improve on the turn.

[36CampusAve]

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Pot is too big to fold so call it down. I can't see you winning UI though (and you may be drawing dead). CO may have an overpair and UTG may have hit his str8 (although he could be betting with a draw).

[neurotiq]

I don't think I'd donk this flop. The hand plays differently after you check...

[Fadook]

Checking this flop is clearly better I think. You have good relative position to the preflop raiser so can check-raise to protect your hand.