The Religious Left - a factor in Nov?

[whiskeytown]

an increasing large number of Republican Constituants who could be labeled the "Religious Right" are defecting from the Republican party.

I've seen no less then 3 articles this month talking about the "Religious Left" - it has it's issues - since they don't wave the threat of "losing your salvation" and since they aren't all Christians, they won't have a consensus behind one issue - except maybe not to vote Republican.

I guess they couldn't reconcile the "Love one another" teachings of Christ with the vehemant anti-christian rhetoric of the hardcore Fundamentalists.

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FYI, you could call me a member of the Religious Left - voted Religious Right until recently when I literally lost my faith - then when I refound it I figured I was more on the side of guys like Martin Luther King Jr. then GWB

so I could be considered one of the defectors who are gathering strength and using their voice -

waiting for the first hardcore fundie to email me a death threat in 5...4...3...2...

RB

[irvman21]

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an increasing large number of Republican Constituants who could be labeled the "Religious Right" are defecting from the Republican party.

I've seen no less then 3 articles this month talking about the "Religious Left" - it has it's issues - since they don't wave the threat of "losing your salvation" and since they aren't all Christians, they won't have a consensus behind one issue - except maybe not to vote Republican.

I guess they couldn't reconcile the "Love one another" teachings of Christ with the vehemant anti-christian rhetoric of the hardcore Fundamentalists.

works for me - [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

FYI, you could call me a member of the Religious Left - voted Religious Right until recently when I literally lost my faith - then when I refound it I figured I was more on the side of guys like Martin Luther King Jr. then GWB

so I could be considered one of the defectors who are gathering strength and using their voice -

waiting for the first hardcore fundie to email me a death threat in 5...4...3...2...

RB

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I like to refer to my family as the religious left, other people just like to refer to them as "Jews".

[jman220]

If Jesus Christ were alive today he would be a liberal democrat. And its not even close.

[BCPVP]

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If Jesus Christ were alive today he would be a liberal democrat. And its not even close.

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[Copernicus]

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If Jesus Christ were alive today he would be a liberal democrat. And its not even close.

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I agree..and if he ran for and won an office it would just be another charlatan added to the bunch.

[whiskeytown]

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If Jesus Christ were alive today he would be a liberal democrat. And its not even close.

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I agree..and if he ran for and won an office it would just be another charlatan added to the bunch.

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no he wouldn't - he wouldn't make it to office -

anyone who preaches non-violence and peace threatens the money machines enough where the individuals are eliminated

as MLK jr. said well before he was killed

"But what is society's reaction to such men? It has reacted and always will react, in the only way open to it. It destroys such men. Jeremiah died a martyr."

[Roybert]

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If Jesus Christ were alive today he would be a (fill in the blank) . And its not even close.

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Comments like this are why I hate both religion and politics.

[canis582]

The religious left has always been there, but it has become subverted and marginalized by well funded groups of right wingers. Jimmy Carter appealed to religous folks because he was a kind, generous man. GWB or any of his ilk would never build a house for someone unless a camera was there.

The religious right plays into people's bigotry: God hates gays and brown people. Check out townhall.com, it sez: tolerance bad, education bad, war good. Oh, and women dont have any rights. I was at a wedding where the pastor made sure to say three times that the woman was the mans servant.

Or check this out, its tangentially related. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/30/153115/873

Are people waking up was your question/point, Russ. I'd say we'll see if the same gay marriage on the ballot trick works again.

My Pastor is liberal, but a wuss. He'd never say anything political.

[whiskeytown]

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The religious left has always been there, but it has become subverted and marginalized by well funded groups of right wingers. Jimmy Carter appealed to religous folks because he was a kind, generous man. GWB or any of his ilk would never build a house for someone unless a camera was there.

The religious right plays into people's bigotry: God hates gays and brown people. Check out townhall.com, it sez: tolerance bad, education bad, war good. Oh, and women dont have any rights. I was at a wedding where the pastor made sure to say three times that the woman was the mans servant.

Or check this out, its tangentially related. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/30/153115/873

Are people waking up was your question/point, Russ. I'd say we'll see if the same gay marriage on the ballot trick works again.

My Pastor is liberal, but a wuss. He'd never say anything political.

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I think they will bring up the dead horse to get a few more beatings out of it.

there is speculation that the Ohio 2004 vote was rigged - but there is also documentation that shows an underground "get out the Republican vote" at several mega-churches around Ohio - which, if true, should disqualify them for non-profit status - seeing as how these churches rake in more money then most town businesses, that would be fitting.

the intolerance of the Religious Right on dissent is fun as well - I like this article but there are several I'm aware of.

RB

[canis582]

Great point about the non-profit status of those churches. My mouth waters at the prospect of yanking that from them.

Using nonprofits as political vehicles has been a calling card of the right wing money men.