22r hand vs ericW23

[Bond18]

How's this all look.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t500/t1000
(Ante: t100)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t45977
Hero: t44280
MP1: t110965
MP2: t35735
CO: t45340
Button: t36500
SB: t24106
BB: t17970

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t2800</font>, MP1 calls t2800 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t5100)</font>.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t7900, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t4500</font>, MP1 calls t4500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t12400)</font>.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t16900, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t12000</font>, MP1 calls t12000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t28900)</font>.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t40900, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets t11000</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t11000 returned to MP1.

Results:
Final pot: t40900

[djk123]

i don't think i could fold getting such good odds vs him just because he's so bad

[Bond18]

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i don't think i could fold getting such good odds vs him just because he's so bad

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Yea but he's so bad in a retard slow play kidn of way. That river bet is the most obv value bet in the history of poker from the most obvious player online.

[ASPoker8]

I'm such a dork. I'm lol'ing right now remembering Nath rant about ErickW at turningstone when they were deep in the stars 50-50.

Hes awful, but probably not valuebetting worse. Also, I severely doubt hes smart enough to fake valuebet bluff here.

I'd fold

Isn't this ever a value bet with TT/JJ/A8s/98s? I don't know, I have trouble believing we're not good 20% of the time here.

edit: I guess I feel like most players bet way more with Qx here.

[nath]

Lmao your fold here is so bad
He'd bet like 77 here

[nath]

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i don't think i could fold getting such good odds vs him just because he's so bad

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Yea but he's so bad in a retard slow play kidn of way. That river bet is the most obv value bet in the history of poker from the most obvious player online.

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No, he's bad in a "plays like 40% VPIP, calls bets on multiple streets with any piece of the board, including underpairs and occasionally ace high, and bets big with big hands and small with weak hands" way. If he had you beat he'd bet more. I think you're good way often enough to call here.

Also, just bet more on the flop, he's calling 7k as easily as 4500. Hell, maybe even c/r the flop and let him insta-stack off with any pair

[0evg0]

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I'm such a dork. I'm lol'ing right now remembering Nath rant about ErickW at turningstone when they were deep in the stars 50-50

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EXACORRY I REMEMBER BEING HIGH AND ASKING NONSTGOP FOR AN HOUR IF IT WAS THE SAME 2P2 BBV4L ERICW AND GETTING YELLEED ATR

[Superfluous Man]

Against a really awful "call-with-anything" type player why not just shove the river for value? Let him put you on AK and call with his K8 or whatever.

[nath]

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Against a really awful "call-with-anything" type player why not just shove the river for value? Let him put you on AK and call with his K8 or whatever.

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I was thinking about this too, and yes, I'm pretty sure ErickW23 would call with K8 there