TT in BB vs donk, with overcard on board.

[Ivar]

- Villain (SB) = 58/8/0.5
- I saw him limping with all kind of starting hands.
- If the pot was raised preflop, he donked like 75% of the flops.


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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero ?

What should be my play here? In my opinion; folding is not an option....


Bye,
Ivar

[Disconnected]

If folding is not an option for you (I agree, based on your read), I'd call down. If you make your flush on the river and he checks, I'd make a bet.

[bravos1]

what does the flop raise accomplish? What was your action if he checked to you?

[bozlax]

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what does the flop raise accomplish? What was your action if he checked to you?

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Chased out SB? Flop raise is gOOt, especially in light of OP's read on SB's action in a preflop-raised pot, and it should be a c-bet if checked to.

As it is, you're HU. You're getting 3.5:1 to calldown. Given the read about how he plays flops, the turn donk on the scare card is suspect, so call. Bet the river if checked to.

[Jeans]

With the raise at the flop you obviously don't put him on a queen, so what would he bet with at the flop? perhaps mid pair or flush draw? In this case he made his draw, he might even have a queen.. I don't think fold would be a terrible option..

[Xhad]

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what does the flop raise accomplish?

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Folding out a possible 3-6 outer from CO

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What was your action if he checked to you?

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Bet, not close.

As played: With the T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I don't fold here. What to do when he bets a non-club river is the only real question here IMO.

[SomthingOrOther]

he has a .5 af but he's donking 75% of flops? i dont get it. With that low of an AF i probly fold. How do you figure a "calls raise" range? guess you need his defend stats. I just got stove so id be happy to do the math. Whats his defend sb stats ?

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

calls ldo....

[bravos1]

Ivar.. you still never answered my below questions.

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what does the flop raise accomplish? What was your action if he checked to you (on the turn)?

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[Ivar]

Sorry Bravos1,

My flop raise was to let fold CO, to let SB pay more for his draw?, low pair?, bluff? and get it HU with him. If it was checked to me, I would definitely make a cbet. You don't always have to fear if an overcard comes on the flop. A lot of people think; oh he donks the flop -&gt; he got to have that Q.

Ivar