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Old 11-12-2007, 12:34 PM
Berky Berky is offline
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Default 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $146.20
BTN: $53.55
SB: $105.25
Hero (BB): $195.35
UTG: $45.50
MP: $50

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1</font>, SB calls $1

Turn: ($3) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $7</font>, Hero ????????

Villain is 34.7/17/1.26AF over 200 hands

Only one prior hand. I had AKss he potted in MP , i repotted with AKss CO and he Repotted I tank folded.

Didn't know how to extract most value on the turn here, I put him on just a queen trying to get tricky.

PLease take not of stack sizes

I think if we raise turn we loose a lot of Queens with mediocre kickers like Q10, Q9.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

I dont think your hand is always as huge as you are saying it is here. IMO you should be more concerned about getting to sd than extracting because your clubs could be dead and your two pair could be counterfiet - this is a limped pot
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

Reraise. c/c flop c/r turn is a really strong line, he isn't folding to a raise here. Make it 25-30 to go.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

tough question, I like the 3 bet. I think he's check raise means he smells weakness or wants to be aggressive with the fd. Both of those situations seem like a 3 bet on the turn is the right play. blind v. blind I find top pair doesn't usually lay down very easy.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

limped pot yo he shows up with q8 all day, call hit clubon river
and stack opponent
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

if you actually had a monster, the best way to extract value would be to 3bet here. but you dont, and you dont want to get blown off your draw. call
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

I call here.


On the previous hand, if I pot 3b AKs and get 4b I'm prob not folding.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

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I call here.


On the previous hand, if I pot 3b AKs and get shoved on I'm not folding.

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So you're willing to flip at best for 200bb's?
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

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I call here.


On the previous hand, if I pot 3b AKs and get shoved on I'm not folding.

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So you're willing to flip at best for 200bb's?

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Didn't notice stacks.

Tried to ninja edit but guess you preserved it for posterity.

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Old 11-12-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - 200bbs+ deep,I have a monster. How to extract value?

If we 3-bet the turn and villain calls/shoves, we're most likely behind. I just call.
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