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Old 08-01-2007, 07:49 PM
JemY JemY is offline
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Default Re: Passive KK against tags...

I like your line a lot, very nice for mixing up your play. If you have him beat I think you extracted the most out of him by letting him bluff, and lost the minimum if you're actually beat.

Edit : I don't really see how we could fold here, villain could be easily value betting TT or JJ. The only hand that vilain could have that beats us is AQ, QQ or AA. I think villain's range is much wider than that, thus I call. You guys seem scared of the queen, I am scared of AA a lot more.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:49 PM
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I don't see how you can fold this. 4-bet preflop though.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Passive KK against tags...

I was half-kidding [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Either way, it's a fold imo.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Passive KK against tags...

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I don't see how you can fold this. 4-bet preflop though.

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villain is vbing JJ?

AQ got there, AK is a suicide bet v most ppl...
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:58 PM
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this is a call.

4bet pf obvious.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Passive KK against tags...

Oh, missed the Q on the turn (lol I did that last night and instapushed turn with KK and rivered my boat [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )...but yes, I do think he would VB JJ here. I would (tagfish??)
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:02 PM
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i know you've heard it but i hate not 4 betting preflop here

as played tho i will reraise this flop every time if i flat call KK preflop, i dont get the smooth call, if i didnt and he checked the turn like he did i bet/fold

river i call
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:02 PM
Aschweinsteiger Aschweinsteiger is offline
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im either all in preflop or on the flop
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:03 PM
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vbetting JJ here is burning money.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:22 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Don't see villain vbetting JJ/TT here or bluffing w/ AK often enough here for a call to be profitable.
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