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Old 09-03-2007, 04:13 PM
MyPTBB100isPOOP MyPTBB100isPOOP is offline
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Default 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

Villian is playin 14/7 over 300 hands no history with him.
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $402.00
BB: $114.45
UTG: $400.00
MP: $434.00
CO: $86.80
Hero (BTN): $406.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $16.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52.00</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $36.00

Flop: ($110) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $75.00</font>, MP calls $75.00

Turn: ($260) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($260) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets all-in for $307.00</font>, Hero WTF

Hes owning me here right?
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:19 PM
Etats360 Etats360 is offline
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Default Re: 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

I don't see a 14/7 value shoving worse, and I don't think he calls on the flop with something worth bluffing that river with, even if he thinks AK makes up a lot of your range.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

fold preflop
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:23 PM
MyPTBB100isPOOP MyPTBB100isPOOP is offline
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Default Re: 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

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fold preflop

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i think you got confused, HEEE is the 14/7 not meeee
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:28 PM
LouisCyphre LouisCyphre is offline
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Default Re: 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

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fold preflop

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i think you got confused, HEEE is the 14/7 not meeee

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And that is exactly the reason why you should fold. What do you think is his range and how does AQo compare to that range?
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

I'd say call pf but 3betting pf is pretty awful.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

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I'd say call pf but 3betting pf is pretty awful.

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Old 09-03-2007, 04:49 PM
MyPTBB100isPOOP MyPTBB100isPOOP is offline
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Default Re: 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

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fold preflop

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i think you got confused, HEEE is the 14/7 not meeee

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And that is exactly the reason why you should fold. What do you think is his range and how does AQo compare to that range?

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I understand that I am prob a 1.5 to 1 dog vs his range. But I have the advantage of position, and if i raise i also have the initiative. I think it would be a mistake to flat call, without the added advantage of being able to carry our PF agression to the flop. I think we can give up a ton of actual equity in spots where we have the initiative. I think its a clear fold or a raise, and folding isnt part of my gameplan in this situation. Its early in the session, show some aggression!
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

You're a huge dog against his calling range, and he 4-bets sometimes too.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: 3b pot i get there on the river but he shoves

river is a fold.
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