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Old 09-11-2007, 07:05 PM
Xanta Xanta is offline
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Default I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

NOTICE STACK SIZES BEFORE YOU FLAME PLZ

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $435.20
BB: $216.90
UTG: $403.10
MP: $208.85
Hero (CO): $391.00
BTN: $37.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Hero built his stack in like 8 hands by playing really aggro preflop then bet/shoving aces into jacks preflop. Villain is more or less unknown, but has the name UTG making me think he's less donkish. Don't know how he got his stack</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $7.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($17) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $140.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $207.00

I'm pretty awful at playing deep, but I'm sure that preflop and flop are good. How do react to his 3bet?
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

calling the flop is much better than raise folding

when you raise THAT flop, you're gonna get raised or folded on pretty often
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

Pre-flop is bad, as played I don't mind the fold.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

Ughh...there are like 239056 draws out there. Raise/folding is just so terrible. And you're not even THAT deep.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:09 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

What's his range? QQ+ and AK? Anyone got a stove versus that range?
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

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Pre-flop is bad

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PF is fine against an UTG open.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

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calling the flop is much better than raise folding

when you raise THAT flop, you're gonna get raised or folded on pretty often

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Thought about this, but aren't there a gagillion cards that suck for me on the turn? I guess being in position makes it easier to play. This might be one of those 'you can raise, but if you do you can't fold' spots.

Also, I think that any other play preflop sucks.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:13 PM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

Preflop is whatever. Raise/folding the flop is lol though.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

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Preflop is whatever. Raise/folding the flop is lol though.

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You prefer smoothcalling or raise/shoving?
Knew I butchered this one.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: I suck (folded a set of jacks on the flop)

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Preflop is whatever. Raise/folding the flop is lol though.

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You prefer smoothcalling or raise/shoving?
Knew I butchered this one.

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If I was going to fold to a shove after the raise I would flat call the flop. I would prefer to just raise/call(push) though.
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