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Old 11-09-2007, 08:13 AM
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Default $50 5bet AK?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$150.78</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$49.25</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$11.30</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$72.55</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$22.70</font>)

Pre-flop: ($1, 5 players) Hero is CO K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7.5</font>, <font color="#777777">3 folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $15</font> ($133.78), <font color="#0000cc"> $7.5 to Hero ($41.75)?</font>

villain is 29.6/20.4 6.7 rr freq over 50 hands. no history.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: $50 5bet AK?

all day.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: $50 5bet AK?

I'd fold. I don't think he's 4betting you light with both of you being in EP (especially if you have no 3bet/4bet history?)....about the lightest would be TT+,AK I guess and he's def. calling a 5bet with QQ+, maybe JJ or AK.

I don't think it's gonna work out to be +ev.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: $50 5bet AK?

I fold here as well. Aggro or not, he just min 4 bet you. youre both in early position so this shows he has a real hand that much more. I think at best youre looking at a flip and much much more often than not here youre crushed.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: $50 5bet AK?

meh isnt min 4bet like always the nuts? if we 5 bet its a push right?
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: $50 5bet AK?

We would have to push assuming we 5 bet and I dont think I have ever seen a min 4 bet with garbage.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: $50 5bet AK?

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youre both in early position .

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actually I am in the CO and he is UTG in a 5 handed game.

people who fold, do you shove if its a 2.5x or greater 4 bet?
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: $50 5bet AK?

Do hand values increase that dramatically when one person leaves the table? And if the answer to that question is yes, does villain know this? I dont see villain doing this with AQ obviously, and I dont see villain doing this with TT-JJ either. I guess its possible, but very very unlikely. I see that he likes to rr but that stat could just mean he likes to 3 bet. 4 betting light and 3 betting light are completely different animals.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: $50 5bet AK?

If you don't mind variance, push.

Edit: I originally thought it was suited. Looking back, at best you are up against QQ here. Its a push or fold situation, so just give it up.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: $50 5bet AK?

What's funny is I am actually more inclined to shove here if he made it a bigger 4 bet than what he did. His raise just stinks of value imo. When an aggro villain with stats like that starts to make these tiny little bets it sets of flags for me.
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