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Old 11-23-2007, 07:48 AM
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Default Re: 30/60 turn spot

The reason people don't (or rather, shouldn't) fold pairs on this board on the turn is because most PF raisers c-bet QJo and other similar no-showdown type hands on the turn and check their showdownable hands. A large number of poker players are aware of this fact, so when the board is as such and we've got a chance to take a free 12+ out draw, I think it's better to generally check because our fold equity is not too high and the pot is small so letting a free 4-6 out draw hit isn't too harmful.

Make the board a similar straightish type board, but with bigger cards, and we still have just some kind of ace high flush draw, and I think there's a better case to be made for betting (because then people begin to lay down bottom pair to turn bets because the board makes it more likely to have hit the PFRs hand range).
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