55$ KK A high board

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Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t2430
Hero: t1880
UTG+2: t220
MP1: t1900
MP2: t1940
MP3: t1920
CO: t1940
Button: t2150
SB: t3620
BB: t2000

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t90)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t270</font>, 6 folds, SB calls t240 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t420)</font>, 2 folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t660, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t660, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t660, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t330</font>, SB calls t330 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t990)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: t1320

Any thoughts?

Thx for your help.

[holy32]

pf raise to 240.

flop definetly cbet 300-400.

If you check the flop, bet the turn for that amount.

There is basically no hand that will call you that you beat on the river. Most probable is Ax.

[vers]

I was thinking the same for turn/riv as holy, but I don't mind a check behind on the flop since it's a WA/WB situation.

[holy32]

WA/WB ?

[donkraft]

Way ahead, way behind

[holy32]

Hm, I just don't mind taking down a good sized pot right there. And an A high flop is good to cbet on.

[JacJacAtk]

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Hm, I just don't mind taking down a good sized pot right there. And an A high flop is good to cbet on.

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Betting an A-high draw-less flop with KK only folds worse hands and gets called (or raised) by everything that beats you. Playing as OP did (or similarly) occasionally gets calls/bets from things like TT/99 or a Qx (on the turn).

[Duerig]

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There is basically no hand that will call you that you beat on the river. Most probable is Ax.

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Disagree, I think you get looked up pretty light on this river.

[holy32]

Hm..

I'm trying to think of ways the hand could play out. sb checks flop, you bet, he folds, all's good. we won a nice pot. If sb CR's he usually has us beat by a wide margin and we got away from the hand early and did't lose alot of chips.

If some random card comes that he hits, say he has KQ and he doesn't outdraw us but makes some MPGK hand, we win a little more, but probably not much, b/c he will be afraid of the ace.

If he outdraws us we are losing more than by b/f the flop, b/c we won't just fold to one bet on the turn and we will have a decision to make on the river, not really knowing where we are at.

I think there are pro's and con's either way, but it is generally alot better to get an idea of where you stand and to be the aggresor. I still prefer betting the flop to checking.

[sence25]

Riverbet is fine.
Your line is decent up to river.
Prolly you could bet a bit less, to make any pocket call.