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Old 08-01-2007, 05:48 PM
rine rine is offline
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Default NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

Just a few hands played on the table.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $99.10
BB: $49.27
UTG: $27.28
MP: $23.14
CO: $162.88
Hero (BTN): $108.83

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, SB calls $4.00, BB folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($14.50) K 2 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, SB calls $10.00, UTG calls $10.00

Turn: ($44.50) K 2 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $33.50</font>, SB calls $33.50, UTG folds

River: ($111.50) K 2 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 A (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

$51 left
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Old 08-01-2007, 06:28 PM
HumbertHumbert HumbertHumbert is offline
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Default Re: NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

i would check. He may have a K and call you but he might fold given the flush and the ace. If he does call I bet you see flushes and even straights a lot. close but i think i check.
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Old 08-01-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

Which hands are going to pay YOU of if you bet this river?
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Old 08-01-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

I feel like we are paying off a bet if he jams for 1/2 pot anyway, plus I feel like he has a king here, unless he plays really wierd with a set.

Id shove.
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Old 08-01-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

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I feel like we are paying off a bet if he jams for 1/2 pot anyway, plus I feel like he has a king here, unless he plays really wierd with a set.

Id shove.

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I'm in position.
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Old 08-01-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

do you really think that he would take the risk of you checking behind when he hits the flush, especially with so little money behind? and he knows that you probably cant fold to a shove because you are commited anyway...if he had the flush (and is somewhat reasonable) this would be an easy shove for him.
id probably shove against unknown
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:48 PM
1gotth3nuts 1gotth3nuts is offline
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Default Re: NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

yeah i shove here, its so little money behind that i really doubt villain checks the flush to you..
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:57 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

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Which hands are going to pay YOU of if you bet this river?

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BINGO!

Villains range is made up of mostly Kx/FD/str8 draw. The FD and str8 draw got there on the river. We are going to have a hard time extracting value from Kx after the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] falls off on the river. Basically better hands call, and worse hands fold to our shove in this spot.

This is a pretty easy river check, and its really not close.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:32 PM
HumbertHumbert HumbertHumbert is offline
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Default Re: NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

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yeah i shove here, its so little money behind that i really doubt villain checks the flush to you..

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villain has about 50bb's left. that's a lot. dont just look at the stack size relative to the potsize.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:42 PM
Roger Mainfield Roger Mainfield is offline
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Default Re: NL100 river valuebet 2p IP when flush hits?

If you shove there is 165$ in the middle, 3:1 for villian. You are getting looked up by badly played 2 pair, and maybe KQ here. I def shove because it's very likely you have the best hand, and let bad players pay you off when they shouldn't.
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