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Old 11-20-2007, 02:04 PM
moldman moldman is offline
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Default NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

Villain is a 57/5/0.6 gem. Unfortunately, he had doubled up on me on this hand a couple orbits ago:

BTN: $103.50
SB: $99
BB: $319.45
UTG: $189
UTG+1: $259.55
Hero (MP1): $476.05
MP2: $446.70
CO: $77.10

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP1)
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($22) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $34</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $99</font>, SB calls $56 and is All-In

Turn: ($202) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($202) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $202 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Nines) and WON $199 (+$100 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$99 NET)

So, here is the hand at question:

SB: $39
BB: $187
UTG: $233.35
UTG+1: $253.20
MP1: $228.25
Hero (MP2): $403.15
CO: $328
BTN: $87.85

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $7, UTG calls $7

Flop: ($28) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($28) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $24</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to ??
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

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Old 11-20-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

$72.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

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$72.

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Old 11-20-2007, 02:15 PM
MNSUgoMAVS! MNSUgoMAVS! is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

I think I would normally go a little larger than 72, can someone explain to me why this would be wrong?
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

ALL YOU CAN EAT BABY!!

ahem. I mean.. $80
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

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I think I would normally go a little larger than 72, can someone explain to me why this would be wrong?

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The idea in my mind is to bet large enough he'll call with whatever junk he has and to price out whatever draw he might be on, whether it be two pair, straight outs to split, etc.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

$66
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:38 PM
MNSUgoMAVS! MNSUgoMAVS! is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

Huh, maybe it's just bc I play on Bodog and will get instacalled by any 2 pair and most flush draws, maybe even some straight draws.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: NL200 - Turn the nuts... how much to raise when donked into

You should raise preflop to 5.5BB instead of 4.5BB. Cts explain this at his first cardrunner vid.

72 over 66
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