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09-21-2006, 07:10 PM
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Hugo and Rangel
I love Rangel's righteous indignation over Hugo's rhetoric in "my District" when Chavez' speeches could have been cut and paste from his own.
Some enterprising soul should side by side quotes from Chavez with those of the Democrat leadership in a "who said this" quiz. I'd bet that anyone who didnt actually listen to Chavez would fail dismally to separate him from the Dems better than random hits. 
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09-21-2006, 07:12 PM
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Re: Hugo and Rangel
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I love Rangel's righteous indignation over Hugo's rhetoric in "my District" when Chavez' speeches could have been cut and paste from his own. Some enterprising soul should side by side quotes from Chavez with those of the Democrat leadership in a "who said this" quiz. I'd bet that anyone who didnt actually listen to Chavez would fail dismally to separate him from the Dems better than random hits. [/ QUOTE ] While Rangel is certainly a wacko, there really is no equivalence between Rangel's ravings, and what Chavez said. He literally called bush the "devil incarnate." And stated something along the lines of that Bush should "live in misery every day for the rest of his life." Thats quite a bit beyond even Bush's harshest democratic critics.
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09-21-2006, 07:18 PM
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Re: Hugo and Rangel
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[ QUOTE ] I love Rangel's righteous indignation over Hugo's rhetoric in "my District" when Chavez' speeches could have been cut and paste from his own. Some enterprising soul should side by side quotes from Chavez with those of the Democrat leadership in a "who said this" quiz. I'd bet that anyone who didnt actually listen to Chavez would fail dismally to separate him from the Dems better than random hits. [/ QUOTE ] While Rangel is certainly a wacko, there really is no equivalence between Rangel's ravings, and what Chavez said. He literally called bush the "devil incarnate." And stated something along the lines of that Bush should "live in misery every day for the rest of his life." Thats quite a bit beyond even Bush's harshest democratic critics. [/ QUOTE ] the "misery" comment, I agree, that wouldnt fly with anyone but Howard Stern fans "devil incarnate"..you can probably find something close Personal insults aside, you can find parallels to Hugo almost daily in Rangel's speeches with the "its all about oil", "WMD lies", "the response to Katrina would have been better if it had a white population" etc.
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09-21-2006, 07:29 PM
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Re: Hugo and Rangel
A Democrat springs to Bush's defense after someone launches invective rhetoric against President Bush -- which for the right demands talking points about just how invective the Democrats' rhetoric is.
Criticize President Bush? Outrageous. Defend President Bush? Further proof the Democrats are outrageous. Yay inscrutable and incoherent narrative!
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09-21-2006, 08:40 PM
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Re: Hugo and Rangel
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A Democrat springs to Bush's defense after someone launches invective rhetoric against President Bush -- which for the right demands talking points about just how invective the Democrats' rhetoric is. Criticize President Bush? Outrageous. Defend President Bush? Further proof the Democrats are outrageous. Yay inscrutable and incoherent narrative! [/ QUOTE ] Hugo Chavez is a disgusting hypocritical commie pig with no class. I hate GW btw, but he's still our president. Show some respect hombre!
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09-21-2006, 08:45 PM
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Re: Hugo and Rangel
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[ QUOTE ] A Democrat springs to Bush's defense after someone launches invective rhetoric against President Bush -- which for the right demands talking points about just how invective the Democrats' rhetoric is. Criticize President Bush? Outrageous. Defend President Bush? Further proof the Democrats are outrageous. Yay inscrutable and incoherent narrative! [/ QUOTE ] Hugo Chavez is a disgusting hypocritical commie pig with no class. I hate GW btw, but he's still our president. Show some respect hombre! [/ QUOTE ] No comprende.
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09-22-2006, 12:23 PM
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Re: Hugo and Rangel
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[ QUOTE ] A Democrat springs to Bush's defense after someone launches invective rhetoric against President Bush -- which for the right demands talking points about just how invective the Democrats' rhetoric is. Criticize President Bush? Outrageous. Defend President Bush? Further proof the Democrats are outrageous. Yay inscrutable and incoherent narrative! [/ QUOTE ] Hugo Chavez is a disgusting hypocritical commie pig with no class. I hate GW btw, but he's still our president. Show some respect hombre! [/ QUOTE ] Why do you hold HC to a higher standard than our own politicians. There is a huge difference between legitimated political debate and flaming. Rangel regularly crosses that line and its inexcusable no matter who is doing it. His remarks about HC are hypocrisy of the highest order.
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#8
09-21-2006, 07:31 PM
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Re: Hugo and Rangel
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I love Rangel's righteous indignation over Hugo's rhetoric in "my District" when Chavez' speeches could have been cut and paste from his own. Some enterprising soul should side by side quotes from Chavez with those of the Democrat leadership in a "who said this" quiz. I'd bet that anyone who didnt actually listen to Chavez would fail dismally to separate him from the Dems better than random hits. [/ QUOTE ] While Rangel is certainly a wacko, there really is no equivalence between Rangel's ravings, and what Chavez said. He literally called bush the "devil incarnate." And stated something along the lines of that Bush should "live in misery every day for the rest of his life." Thats quite a bit beyond even Bush's harshest democratic critics. [/ QUOTE ] the "misery" comment, I agree, that wouldnt fly with anyone but Howard Stern fans "devil incarnate"..you can probably find something close Personal insults aside, you can find parallels to Hugo almost daily in Rangel's speeches with the "its all about oil", "WMD lies", "the response to Katrina would have been better if it had a white population" etc. [/ QUOTE ] There is a difference between attacking the President's policies, and attacking the man personally, and there is a difference between Americans criticizing their president, and the leader of a foreign country, who is a guest on American Soil, personally attacking our head of state. (Especially considering what kind of leader Chavez is in his own country). These were all pointed out in Rangel's speech.
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#9
09-22-2006, 11:10 AM
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Re: Hugo and Rangel
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There is a difference between attacking the President's policies, and attacking the man personally, and there is a difference between Americans criticizing their president, and the leader of a foreign country, who is a guest on American Soil, personally attacking our head of state. [/ QUOTE ] Rangle can condemn Chavez's remarks for their substance if he likes - fine- but this thing of him being particularly indignant because Chavez is supposedly "a guest on American soil" is nonsense. He was speaking on the floor of the UN as President of his country, not as a visitor to the US.
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