($27) AJs vs Luisgallo's UTG 8x BB shove

[taipan168]

UTG is Luisgallo, regular poster on this forum and winning multitabler. Is he shoving wide enough for me to make this call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB (t3130)
BB (t3585)
UTG (t1185)
Hero (t1090)
CO (t2665)
Button (t1845)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, J.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1185</font>, Hero ????

[willperkins]

If UTG is regular poster then he knows the blinds are fixing to eat about 20% of his stack and he will lose some serious fold equity. Therefore, he will shove with a very, very wide range of hands. AJs is about 62% to win against random hand so I would call and hope everyone else lets you be heads up.

[Little John]

what range does he need to be on for calling to be neutral? you some type of edge just because there are so many yet to act.

[MatteyA28]

If I was on the BB I would probably call here seeing as how he is desparate. However with 4 people behind I think you have to lay this down here.

[Lahmshuffle]

so let's estimate his range here. he is a winning multitabler so he knows the concepts:
my estimate would be: 77+, 98s+, A6s+, ATo+, KQ, 2 suited cards &gt; T. So his range is wider than your holding. With a really large stack, I snap-call. With a medium stack I lay it down because there are better opportunities. With a small stack, you can certainly gamble but you are probably flipping coins in some way. I lay it down here.

[Schmitty 87]

a winning multitabler is not shoving all sorts of [censored] utg here. calling with AJs would be super bad imo, especially with 4 people behind you.

[Schmitty 87]

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so let's estimate his range here. he is a winning multitabler so he knows the concepts:
my estimate would be: 77+, 98s+, A6s+, ATo+, KQ, 2 suited cards &gt; T. So his range is wider than your holding. With a really large stack, I snap-call. With a medium stack I lay it down because there are better opportunities. With a small stack, you can certainly gamble but you are probably flipping coins in some way. I lay it down here.

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people really shove 89s and A6s before 66 in UTG's spot? wow

[J-P]

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a winning multitabler is not shoving all sorts of [censored] utg here. calling with AJs would be super bad imo, especially with 4 people behind you.

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[Little John]

if Luis is pushing 17% or so calling looks fine in sngwiz. 17% is like A7o A3s KTs 33. of course he would push QJs before A3s but sngwiz does not allow me substitue hands. i put the button and co on AQ TT overcall, sb on AQ AJs 88 overcall, and bb on AJ ATs 88 overcall. so calling is + .38% vs this range.

with luis on 14% and keeping the overcall ranges the same this becomes neutral for op to call. 14% = A8o A4s KJs 44.

this is probably so close calling and folding are fine. i'd call becuase if you put some suited connectors into Luis' range the .38% should go up.

[Kevin8423]

I would fold, probably closer to a call in later position.