20/40 Commerce - Playing Defense... with the 2nd nuts.

[Kirkrrr]

Okay, the main villain in this hand is kinda "insane" by pro poker player standards - a few orbits ago he raises to 200 and calls a re-raise to 600 from the SB after some discussion (who had about 3000 total), then INSTA-CALLS and all-in for 2400 more or so with 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] board. And makes it. He has maybe 8k and I cover.

UTG (12k'ish) raises to 180, all fold and I call with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the Button, Villain calls from SB, BB folds.

Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (~600)
SB checks, UTG checks, I decide to get tricky and check.

Turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (~600)
SB checks, UTG bets 400, I raise to 1200... SB instantly screams "Raise!!" and makes it 2600. UTG folds, I call.

River: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (~5800)
SB bets out 2600, I call.

Comments?

Kirk

PS. Oh, any [censored] that chimes in with "fold pre-flop" is getting permanently [censored] Ignored.

[greg nice]

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[lapoker17]

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a few orbits ago he raises to 200 and calls a re-raise to 600 from the SB after some discussion (who had about 3000 total), then INSTA-CALLS and all-in for 2400 more or so with 3 4 on J 8 9 board.

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pretty sure you may have been dealing with 2p2er obxnole.

[Kirkrrr]

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a few orbits ago he raises to 200 and calls a re-raise to 600 from the SB after some discussion (who had about 3000 total), then INSTA-CALLS and all-in for 2400 more or so with 3 4 on J 8 9 board.

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pretty sure you may have been dealing with 2p2er obxnole.

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I very strongly doubt it, this guy was pretty old. Anything on the hand?

Kirk

[lapoker17]

i stick it in there - probably on turn - what's left? 2k or so?

other than flop check i think everything is good

[PoppinFresh]

I think you should shove the river, seems really weird to me that he would bet less than half pot on the river with QJ

[THE JUICE]

looks like a retardish blocking bet on river with set, retarded block bluff with busted diamonds?? given villians description i dont think he block bets river with the nuts when a 4 straight comes to induce a bluff...

[Raised2Win]

yeah I doubt this guy bets that amount with the nuts on the river after putting so much pressure on turn. Taking the fact that he is also calling machine retard0, I would shove this.

[sammy71]

I think he would make a bigger value bet on the river if he had the nuts on this board. I would push.