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Old 11-14-2007, 12:57 PM
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i think raising the flop is pretty terrible, i would call and re eval/ fold to any further action.

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SB bet 220 into 700 and we minraised, how is that terrible

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gabe you're always saying things like this to me

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cuz you always say anything nonstandard is terrible!!!

terrible's a strong word
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:16 PM
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bet 600 on river. hell call with JT and shove full houses

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if he can have JT he can have 56

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you mean 67, but yeah. and obviously there are more combos of 67 than TJ.

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exactly.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: Very Weird Hand X-Post from HSNL: Showing Love for MSNL

doesnt change the fact that river is a small bet/fold. TJ TQ are possible as is AT. There is value in a river bet.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: Very Weird Hand X-Post from HSNL: Showing Love for MSNL

how does he get there with AT ?
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Very Weird Hand X-Post from HSNL: Showing Love for MSNL

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doesnt change the fact that river is a small bet/fold. TJ TQ are possible as is AT. There is value in a river bet.

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QT and AT are almost impossible. JT is also rather unlikely.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Very Weird Hand X-Post from HSNL: Showing Love for MSNL

I think a blocker looks so bad here and is really transparent and w/ size of pot vs remaining stacks if you were full I don't think you'd ever normally bet 500 hoping to get some small value or hope to be shoved over.

If you check are you ever calling a shove? W/ the price the BTN got pf he can have a lot more than 99/88 here.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:49 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: Very Weird Hand X-Post from HSNL: Showing Love for MSNL

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i think raising the flop is pretty terrible, i would call and re eval/ fold to any further action.

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SB bet 220 into 700 and we minraised, how is that terrible

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gabe you're always saying things like this to me

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cuz you always say anything nonstandard is terrible!!!

terrible's a strong word

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ok, well i think the minraise and plan on the flop is bad then, not terrible, but bad.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:03 PM
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doesnt change the fact that river is a small bet/fold. TJ TQ are possible as is AT. There is value in a river bet.

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QT and AT are almost impossible. JT is also rather unlikely.

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opps, in my last post I got confused as to who called, the sb or the mp, so clearly he wont have AT here.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:04 PM
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I like checking the river as he will rarely show up with a hand that is going to call a vb from us.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Very Weird Hand X-Post from HSNL: Showing Love for MSNL

HERO should have raised to 600-700 on the flop and if called be done w that hand...
the way it was played it is guessing game on the river and I don't believe there is an argument strong enough to make any play on the river distinctly better that another.

my guess would be ttt for your opponent tho
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