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Old 09-05-2007, 05:58 PM
backisen backisen is offline
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Default 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

I think it's StackAholic's first hand at the table. I have never seen him before and I guess he has never seen me either.

- Nimi sitting in seat 1 with $394.00
- StackAholic sitting in seat 2 with $473.30
- hero sitting in seat 3 with $1343.52
- docos sitting in seat 4 with $50.00 [Sitting out]
- iceman10025 sitting in seat 5 with $150.00 [Sitting out]
- IliarBigsac sitting in seat 6 with $578.00 [Dealer]

Nimi posted the small blind - $2.00
StackAholic posted the big blind - $4.00
** Dealing card to hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] , K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
hero raised - $16.00
IliarBigsac folded
Nimi folded
StackAholic raised - $52.00
hero called - $52.00

** Dealing the flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
StackAholic bet - $88.00
hero called - $88.00

** Dealing the turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
StackAholic checked
hero checked

** Dealing the river: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
StackAholic bet - $160.00
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:24 PM
Tumez Tumez is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

Call of course. He could be valuebetting worse hands, or just being retarded.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

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Call of course. He could be valuebetting worse hands, or just being retarded.

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I raise utg preflop and he 3-bets me oop. Do you really think he does this that many hands I beat?
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:31 PM
runner85 runner85 is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

looks a lot like villain was going for a C/R on turn with a set, AA or like AKdd, but then again he could be making a sort of thin value bet with a worse hand mot likely AQ or a bluff is all you beat. Have you called a flop before vs a 3 bet, how wide is his 3 btting range, and do you think villain would try to make a river bluff? i think id call while playing but thinking about it there arent enough hands kk beats there.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:34 PM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

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Call of course. He could be valuebetting worse hands, or just being retarded.

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I raise utg preflop and he 3-bets me oop. Do you really think he does this that many hands I beat?

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okay let me ask you this. IF you don't think you can call this river after checking the turn... why did you call the flop?

if calling the flop seems correct, then that coupled with his turn check should make calling the river correct.

bet the god damn turn.
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:24 AM
backisen backisen is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

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Call of course. He could be valuebetting worse hands, or just being retarded.

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I raise utg preflop and he 3-bets me oop. Do you really think he does this that many hands I beat?

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okay let me ask you this. IF you don't think you can call this river after checking the turn... why did you call the flop?

if calling the flop seems correct, then that coupled with his turn check should make calling the river correct.

bet the god damn turn.

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I think thes risk is pretty big to get CRAI if I bet the turn. I thougt it was better to get the hand to showdown cheap and then i guess i will have to call the river. The river-bet just looks so much like a valuebet and i realised there isn't many hands I beat.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:07 AM
bulldogs24 bulldogs24 is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

he has AQ here a ton i think.. MAYBE even AJ
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:20 AM
freeucm freeucm is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

What did he have? AA?


If u were so sure why did u call flop? Why not get it all in preflop, were u trying to trap?Its real rock to fold river.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:24 AM
DanJ. DanJ. is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

i think the turn checks fine, but i snap call river...KQ/AQ/etc.
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Old 09-06-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 - KK runs into trouble

I'd call and make a note.
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