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Old 07-22-2007, 04:22 PM
FieryJustice FieryJustice is offline
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Default Am I really supposed to fold 2 pair here?

Guy seems like a total idiot and I have just won 4 small pots in a row off him over a few tables.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($443.40)
Button ($530.35)
SB ($384.25)
Hero ($572.20)
UTG ($400)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($18) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $66</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $184</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $588.35 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $338.35.

Turn: ($1128.70) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
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River: ($1128.70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $1128.70
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:30 PM
HoosierAlum HoosierAlum is offline
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Default Re: Am I really supposed to fold 2 pair here?

Total idiot can mean lots of things...specific?

I definitely don't like stacking off in this spot w/these stack sizes. His 4 bet pretty much tells you what you need to know imo. Was he bad enough to do this with AK or JK?
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:32 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Am I really supposed to fold 2 pair here?

You're not really meant to 3-bet the flop here unless you think his range is wide enough and he felts enough of it that calling the 4-bet is instantaneous.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:35 PM
FieryJustice FieryJustice is offline
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Default Re: Am I really supposed to fold 2 pair here?

So is calling and stacking off on low cards better? I dont really know how this guy plays, but I thought he was getting tired of me taking pots from him.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:38 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: Am I really supposed to fold 2 pair here?

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You're not really meant to 3-bet the flop here unless you think his range is wide enough and he felts enough of it that calling the 4-bet is instantaneous.

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Def. agree.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:45 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: Am I really supposed to fold 2 pair here?

I'm not sure how retarded he is, looks like a fold.

Board: Kd Qs Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.295% 34.98% 03.32% 30127 2856.50 { KcTc }
Hand 1: 61.705% 58.39% 03.32% 50290 2856.50 { TT+, AKs, AJs, KTs+, QJs, J9s, AKo, AJo, KTo+, QJo, J9o }
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:48 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Am I really supposed to fold 2 pair here?

since you 3-bet and have some kind of idiot-read on him this is a call for sure. I prefer just calling the flop raise and take it from there.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Am I really supposed to fold 2 pair here?

KT is the same as AA/AK here. Do whatever you would do with those hands
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Am I really supposed to fold 2 pair here?

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KT is the same as AA/AK here. Do whatever you would do with those hands

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what
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:41 PM
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KT is the same as AA/AK here. Do whatever you would do with those hands

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Hahahahah are you serious?

hint: KT has more equity vs AJ
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