5/10 hand from aba's latest video.

[CastlesMadeASand]

This was a big hand that happened in aba's last video. im going to post this hand from the villains perspective because i think he misplayed this hand, but im not sure what the best approach is on the flop here.

Villain is sbrugby

5/10 6 max

villain raises to 35 from CO, button folds, sb folds, hero reraises to ~135 from the BB with J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. villain calls

flop 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img](285)

hero...

We dont have the J of spades, so our hand is pretty weak. i think betting here is bad because we are either flipping or way behind most of the time. imo, this is just a gross spot and not a great spot to commit alot of chips....So what is the best line for hero to take now?

[Dan BRIGHT]

very dependant on villain; i knwo that isnt helping much, but its the truth

[CastlesMadeASand]

i guess im just totally lost on where to even start on this hand. all of our options just suck...

[Ship Ship McGipp]

bet/call a shove 87% of the time

[Black winter day]

Bet 175ish-fold.

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I also would like to support aba's play, i think a lot of people saw the video and know that he had 99, with the 9s.

I ran it through pokerstove and he is in a much better shape than i thought even when called by the top of villain's range.So, basically, aba's only option is to shove there...

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

44,550 games 0.031 secs 1,437,096 games/sec

Board: 6s 7s 8s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.006% 40.58% 00.42% 18079 189.00 { 9h9s }
Hand 1: 58.994% 58.57% 00.42% 26093 189.00 { TT+, 88-66, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, KsQs, JsTs }


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Calling a shove with jacks there is awful.I would think long and hard before calling even with the Js.Someone raised and called a big reraise.He has a good hand.So, we are flipping at best against something like AsQ.Villain might already have a set or overpair with a spade and we are drawing to 1 out.

Actually, on this particular flop i might even check-fold.

[Ship Ship McGipp]

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bet/call a shove 87% of the time

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[88keyz]

tough spot, its an easy way to trap yourself into a mistake

best hand you're up agaisnt when he goes over the top with all-in is still 47% vs 52% (AsKx)

For future reference, I'd probably fold.

[DLizzle]

c/c, lead safe turn, c/f unsafe turn is a line I use a lot in similar spots.

Also, if I did bet the flop I'd call a push probably.

[ikestoys]

lol at we are flipping/wb to villains range

[aislephive]

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Bet 175ish-fold.

Results alert

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I also would like to support aba's play, i think a lot of people saw the video and know that he had 99, with the 9s.

I ran it through pokerstove and he is in a much better shape than i thought even when called by the top of villain's range.So, basically, aba's only option is to shove there...

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

44,550 games 0.031 secs 1,437,096 games/sec

Board: 6s 7s 8s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.006% 40.58% 00.42% 18079 189.00 { 9h9s }
Hand 1: 58.994% 58.57% 00.42% 26093 189.00 { TT+, 88-66, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, KsQs, JsTs }


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Calling a shove with jacks there is awful.I would think long and hard before calling even with the Js.Someone raised and called a big reraise.He has a good hand.So, we are flipping at best against something like AsQ.Villain might already have a set or overpair with a spade and we are drawing to 1 out.

Actually, on this particular flop i might even check-fold.

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Wow if you even consider folding JJ with the Js here to Aba getting 2-1 you might as well quit poker now.