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Old 03-06-2006, 12:39 PM
poisonxfree poisonxfree is offline
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Default KJ faces c/r on turn

Pretty sure I botched this one up pretty badly. Opp has TAGish stats 20/10 over 60ish hands, seemed average. My thought on the flop was that he could have some missed overs or something like QQ or JJ that he could be betting. Is this line incorrect? Also, I feel the c/r on the turn indicates a hand that destroys mine. Comments on all streets would be great, thanks in advance.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (Villain)/ 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villain bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Villain calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises</font>, Hero ???.

Pot size here: 8.5 BB
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Old 03-06-2006, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: KJ faces c/r on turn

I just call down from the flop.
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: KJ faces c/r on turn

:grunch:

I call flop.
Does top pair warant a raise heads up or his the TP3K too devalued?
Villian must be pretty confident you will bet or is otherwise not concerned about a free card on the turn. I might put him on AA or AK with a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I'm not sure, but if villian bet into me on the turn, I would probably fold. You should more confidently fold a check raise, especially against a TAA. If villain checks I would check behind him and fold to an ace or [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the river. Call with anything else.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: KJ faces c/r on turn

Tough hand.
I like the flop raise. With top pair, ok kicker HU, I think you have enough. I fold to the CR though. Villian's flop call, turn CR means he's not worried about your top pair, he's trying to get as many bets as he can out of you. So it's time to get out.
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Old 03-06-2006, 03:17 PM
JerBear77 JerBear77 is offline
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Default Re: KJ faces c/r on turn

*grunch*

Villian sees you in a "steal" opporitunity most likely so his 3 bet back to you could be any A, maybe a KQ, maybe a KJ, or any pair.

I don't like the bet on the turn here because putting 2 bets in this spot stinks especially since you don't have a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I would check behind and call any river or check over it. I put him on a Heart or a weak K, AT with the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] might raise this turn also to get a fold or a cheap SD
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Old 03-06-2006, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: KJ faces c/r on turn

If you have no special read, I'd say an easy fold. Villain is doing a typical slowplay for a monster hand.
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Old 03-06-2006, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: KJ faces c/r on turn

I would not have raised the flop
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Old 03-06-2006, 04:25 PM
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:grunch:

I call flop.
Does top pair warant a raise heads up or his the TP3K too devalued?
Villian must be pretty confident you will bet or is otherwise not concerned about a free card on the turn. I might put him on AA or AK with a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I'm not sure, but if villian bet into me on the turn, I would probably fold. You should more confidently fold a check raise, especially against a TAA. If villain checks I would check behind him and fold to an ace or [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the river. Call with anything else.

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In this situation, i think you HAVE to raise the flop.

1) This is a hand that you want to see a SD, so you guarantee that your seeing a showdown with a hand that you "can" win with. Now, if villian bets into you on the turn, I would fold this most likely becasue your most likey beat with no "outs" with this board.

2) If he has something that he likes that is not a flush, it slows him down and does #1 as well.
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