Effectiveness of spreading a petition to get Pats v. Giants on TV?

[gusmahler]

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This is pretty much the same thing as getting the different Fox Sports Net channels that carry all of their local teams games but you won't get to see them unless you live in that area (because those games are owned by the NCAA Gameplan or FULLCOURT or EXTRA INNINGS, etc)

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Not the same at all. You don't get those games because you didn't pay for them.

The guy you responded to didn't get the NFL game because his cable provider didn't pay for them.

E.g., I get Fox Sports AZ all the time . . . except when the Suns play. I need to pay $150+ to get League Pass to get those games. Since I don't want to pay for that, I don't get the games. Fair enough.

The guy you responded to pays for NFL Network. He gets it all but 3 hours every week, because the cable company is refusing to pay extra to the NFL (or, if you want to look at it the other way, because the NFL is extorting money from the cable companies).

[bottomset]

cost me $3.50 a month to get it added, which is reasonable

[PITTM]

I guess I dont get why I am paying for a package that has NFL network listed but when I call comcast they tell me nfl network isnt available in my area...dude...its on your list of channels that i am paying for...

[polkaface]

So what you are saying is that you get Fox Sports AZ for all but 3 hours a week and some other guy gets NFLN for all but 3 hours a week? And it's not the same??

Way back in the stone age, Fox Sports AZ WOULD show the games regardless of where you were located.

The issue came up when the fees were negotiated again. The leagues want to charge the companies per viewer (that's an easy argument but it's a lot more complicated than that). If you add it basic then it's a prohibitive cost to the company and to each viewer. That is when the Sports Specific all access channels came to be (Sport said "you pay us an overall fee [which is less than it would be if you added it to basic/sports pkg programming] and we take a cut of each viewer").

At this point, Cable (or in your case your satellite provider) views the price of the NFLN (or in your case Fox Sports AZ) as a fair cost. When it comes to the added cost to broadcasting the games on that channel Comcast (or again your provider) thinks the cost is too much and elected not to pay for the right to broadcast it. Your provider in this instance decides to pay to subscribe to the NBA Plan and you can pay for it if you choose.

In your situation you are acclimated to it and the outrage is gone (or it might be all you ever knew). The only difference is that he has no other recourse through his cable company (unless he wants a dish). Cable thinks it is too much, and NFL won't budge on the price.

Personally, Cable might have it right this time. Now Big Ten has their network, Mountain west has their own, SEC is coming up with their own I believe. It is going to get expensive for providers in a hurry if they don't take a stand.

[gusmahler]

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So what you are saying is that you get Fox Sports AZ for all but 3 hours a week and some other guy gets NFLN for all but 3 hours a week? And it's not the same??

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It's not the same. I don't get Fox Sports AZ for Suns games because I choose not to pay extra to get it.

Some other people get NFL Network all but 3 hours a week, but not because of their choice. Their cable provider is in a pissing match with the NFL. People with that particular cable provider can't get the games, even if they were willing to spend extra to get it.

(It should be noted that this situation is rare. For most cable providers, you either get all of NFL Network of none of it. At least one provider (Wow!) is showing NFL Network all week except the game.) Source

[Golden_Rhino]

I'd rather be lucky than good. WTF.

[MicroBob]

the cable system I have that blacks out the NFL Network games is Knology in the Florida Panhandle.
there is a thing that scrolls across that my cable-carrier doesn't subscirbe to the package that has Thur and Sat prime-time games and that if I want to see these games I should call my cable-company because our calls can make a difference.

It's freaking embarassing.

In other news, I was driving for most of the night and think I preferred listening to Dick Enberg and Dennis Green on Westwood One radio anyway.

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So what you are saying is that you get Fox Sports AZ for all but 3 hours a week and some other guy gets NFLN for all but 3 hours a week? And it's not the same??

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It's not the same. I don't get Fox Sports AZ for Suns games because I choose not to pay extra to get it.

Some other people get NFL Network all but 3 hours a week, but not because of their choice. Their cable provider is in a pissing match with the NFL. People with that particular cable provider can't get the games, even if they were willing to spend extra to get it.

(It should be noted that this situation is rare. For most cable providers, you either get all of NFL Network of none of it. At least one provider (Wow!) is showing NFL Network all week except the game.) Source

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You are paying extra for that channel. Your provider is not paying extra on top of that to broadcast the games. Fortunately you have another avenue to rectify the situation whereas Microbob does not.

If your provider didn't ante up for the right to offer League Pass you are in the same boat. Locally you would get the game, not local you don't. And just like you said, even if you wanted to pay extra for the games you wouldn't be able to.

So it is the same situation, the only difference is his provider didn't cave to the NFL. Yours did to the NBA (in the form of offering League Pass).

[Dids]

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I guess I dont get why I am paying for a package that has NFL network listed but when I call comcast they tell me nfl network isnt available in my area...dude...its on your list of channels that i am paying for...

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Comcast apparently approaches you with the same kinda specific rules that 2p2 does. Do you have a personal moderator over there as well?

[PITTM]

If so, it seems that theyre just as incompetent.