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Old 11-15-2007, 12:06 AM
el_dusto el_dusto is offline
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Default $4/180, bottom 2pr in 4-way pot

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t2190)
MP2 (t3580)
MP3 (t8840)
CO (t4570)
Button (t4100)
SB (t3380)
BB (t13607)
UTG (t4950)
Hero (t11955)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t200, MP3 calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t1100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200, MP2 calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t800</font>, Button calls t800, BB calls t600, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2400</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t1600, Button calls t1600, BB calls t1600.

Turn: (t10900) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t9355 (All-In)</font>, MP3 calls t6240 (All-In), Button calls t1500 (All-In), BB folds.

River: (t27995) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t24880

MP3 is 6/0 over 30 hands, haven't seen anything from him really. Button was chipleader during the second hour, nothing out-of-line or remarkable about his play. BB has made some questionable PF and flop calls leading to later street folds in big pots.

Check-folding seemed awfully weak given that the T is not much of a scare card, and I can't think of very many bets I can check-call without being committed for the rest of my stack. I feel like it's possible somebody flopped a set, but top pair or an overpair is equally (if not more) likely.

Should I check-raise? Bet less? I can't think of many bet sizes that don't leave me having to crying-call MP3 or button's eventual shove.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:23 AM
BrandiFan BrandiFan is offline
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Default Re: $4/180, bottom 2pr in 4-way pot

Unless you expected one of the guys after you to raise (as did happen) you should really be making it ~1k to go on the flop. As played, you didn't raise enough when the action got back around to you. Your hand is strong and very likely ahead, but vulnerable. I like shoving instead of the 2400, but 4k or so then shoving any turn is fine too. Don't fold, don't check the turn.

Edit to add: If you shove on the flop after the raise to 800, you're getting calls from any overpair most 9's and the occasional AK. Obv, a set calls too, but that's unlikely. You have a ton of value in pushing hard on this flop.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: $4/180, bottom 2pr in 4-way pot

Raise more on the flop, then shove any turn. If you run into a set, so be it. You will most likely getting called by an overpair or an over played top pair.
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