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Old 07-12-2007, 03:23 PM
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What Bible beliefs has science superseded?

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I'll start the list with #1, but I'd like to get everyone involved. Please add on your own.

1. Heliocentricity

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This could be fun ...

2. Genesis
3. Exodus

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4. People coming back from the dead
5. Seas parting
6. Serpents talking
7. Bushes speaking
8. Banishng demons
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:40 PM
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4. People coming back from the dead
5. Seas parting
6. Serpents talking
7. Bushes speaking
8. Banishng demons


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Prove they didn't happen. Go ahead. I dare ya.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:45 PM
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Prove they did. The burden of proof is on you as you believe them to be true in spite of modern science saying they can't happen.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:49 PM
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modern science saying they can't happen.


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LOL
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:37 PM
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modern science saying they can't happen.


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LOL

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I don't see why this is a shock to you. None of us has ever seen or heard any evidence of these things happening except through religious traditions. Isn't the burden of proof on you to prove that these things didn't happen? Why should we believe the words of the Bible if we don't believe it to be divinely inspired?
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:40 PM
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Why should we believe the words of the Bible if we don't believe it to be divinely inspired?


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Define science.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:44 PM
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Why should we believe the words of the Bible if we don't believe it to be divinely inspired?


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Define science.

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I like to think of science as knowledge about the physical world learned through falsifiable testing through the scientific method.

But it doesn't matter if I say science disproves them or not. Have you heard or seen credible evidence of any of those things happening in the past 500 years? We make the assumption that the physical laws of the universe haven't changed in the past million years. You do not, or at least you believe that God bent these laws to suit his whims in the past. Since we don't see evidence of this bending today, doesn't it fall on you to show us that this is even possible?
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:45 PM
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Why should we believe the words of the Bible if we don't believe it to be divinely inspired?


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Define science.

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How can anyone possibly not see that this guy is just trolling?
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:18 PM
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4. People coming back from the dead
5. Seas parting
6. Serpents talking
7. Bushes speaking
8. Banishng demons


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Prove they didn't happen. Go ahead. I dare ya.

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Science can NEVER prove that something didn't happen. The atheists who say otherwise are morons. Only MATH can prove something never happenned. For example no one ever discovered two cubes that added up to a third one.

However, Probability and Statistics, can be used to show that the information we have about ressurections and speaking bushes is such that when someoneone claims to have witnessed such an event, the odds are overwhelming that he is mistaken. The odds shrink if he supplies us with evidence. But the original statistical evidence is so overwhemingly against him that his own evidence is unlikely to make a big dent in the statistical odds. Certainly the existence of the Bible is not strong enough evidence to accomplish that task.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:25 PM
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Science can NEVER prove


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You're right about science (man I love trolling these atheists), but you're wrong about probability - for much the same reason.
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