NLTRN - Comment on river plz

[PrimordialAA]

Ok, so it's very early in the game, no reads, is there anyone who raises this river for value or folds ( diff. spectrums I know ;p )?


Full Tilt Poker, $55 + $2.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 15/30 Blinds, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): 1,425
BB: 1,575

Pre-Flop: (45) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to 75</font>, BB calls 45

Flop: (150) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 110</font>, BB calls 110

Turn: (370) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (370) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 370</font> Hero ???

[phatjeffrey]

I dont see any value in raising here, the thing is that the 2 cards that made you trips by the river completed almost every draw there is.. but then again a good villain might use this to play a 9 or a weak J this way.

So it comes down to either villain had a draw and made it ( Q10 might be the only one that didnt) or is making a PSB bet on the river with a hand that we have beat..

I think id call on the river.

[Vinetou]

I am too much of a calling station to ever fold this. The card that gave you trips completed every draw, so raising doesn't have any value. If it was a black 7, you could raise there for value.

[Hopeatron]

There's no reason for villain to pot a bluff.

[Vinetou]

Thinking more about this hand, looks like he made a flush here (or maybe a straight, even more likely, because he might raise with a flush draw, but probably wouldn't do it with a straight draw?). You are probably beat, but not necessarilly. There is a VERY SMALL chance that he has a lone jack here which makes it a call.

[PrimordialAA]

hehe... just for logic's sake if the was a VERY SMALL chance he has a lone jack, and a large chance he has me beat, and the bet is a PSB, wouldnt that make it a fold?

edit: Meaning if his range consists largely or almost entirely of hands that beat me, why is a call logical for a PSB?

[phatjeffrey]

I was leaning heavily towards a fold when i first read it, but then i thought this is one of those situations in which a PSB is either a "bluff" or a very strong hand.

In my limited experience, early on in a match people might be more inclined to use a PSB on the river as a bluff rather than for value.

logically this might be a fold, but calling isnt very illogical. i dont know if im making any sense...

[phatjeffrey]

Primo, would u call a 250 or 275 bet on the river ?

[vodoo]

no way to raise this river for value obv.

I cant fold this, your check behind on the turn looks so weak that he might easyly bet another jack or even a 9.

[hra146]

*grunch*

I call and expect to be good more often than not. The fact that were getting odds makes it really easy imo.

I would be tempted to raise but that def. isnt a good idea.