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3bet KK overshove on the flop, standard?
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> MP ($127.45) CO ($100) <font color="#C00000">Button ($174.60)</font> SB ($273.60) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($111.50)</font> UTG ($285.70) Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $4.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $23</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $17.50. Flop: ($50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $89.5 (All-In)</font> I figured his range is something like TT-QQ here and he'd call with the sets. AA, KK might be in the range if he wants to get tricky and he'd call those, too. I don't see any range here were we don't have the equity for the push. I guess no matter what villain has here the hand plays itself. Equity vs QQ/JJ only is 42.5% and he can't really fold anything that connects with the board in any way Standard, right? |
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Re: 3bet KK overshove on the flop, standard?
so you decided to go with this whatever he may have, why not just check/shove then? this way you can catch bluffs too. if he checks behind you're ahead and he wouldnt have called anyway.
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Re: 3bet KK overshove on the flop, standard?
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so you decided to go with this whatever he may have, why not just check/shove then? this way you can catch bluffs too. if he checks behind you're ahead and he wouldnt have called anyway. [/ QUOTE ] Because my equity drops a bunch on a blank turn and I don't see him cbet/fold much here. Maybe like TT but he's probably going to check that. Small example: Board: Ad Qd Jd Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 44.091% 43.79% 00.30% 7803 54.00 { KcKd } Hand 1: 55.909% 55.61% 00.30% 9909 54.00 { AA, QQ-JJ, AQs, AQo } ---- Board: Ad Qd Jd 6h Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 29.924% 29.92% 00.00% 237 0.00 { KcKd } Hand 1: 70.076% 70.08% 00.00% 555 0.00 { AA, QQ-JJ, AQs, AQo } |
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Re: 3bet KK overshove on the flop, standard?
your stove is flawed, cause those hands dont check behind
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Re: 3bet KK overshove on the flop, standard?
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your stove is flawed, cause those hands dont check behind [/ QUOTE ] lol, very true (at least it nicely demonstrates the equity drop though [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ) I guess checking is not bad there in case he does bluff this flop sometimes. If he checks behind with TT there and a K comes on the river I still have 46% equity and if no hand that checks this behind calls the flop push anyways I guess check is the better play here (concidering that all hands we want to get it in against will get it in on the flop). Thx |
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Re: 3bet KK overshove on the flop, standard?
ya, i would have check/shoved too.
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