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Old 06-16-2007, 08:41 PM
FlyHigh2Day FlyHigh2Day is offline
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Default Did I lose value on the Turn?

villain is a 50/6/.5 although I don't have a ton of hands on him. Should I have been worried about my weakish kicker here or just fire out with a turn raise.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $68.55
UTG+1: $19.30
CO: $35.20
Button: $107.35
SB: $38.50
Hero: $30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button folds.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (11BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 19BB
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Old 06-16-2007, 08:48 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: Did I lose value on the Turn?

i slowplay the flop (just call the first time). when button 3bets and SB caps i am sad about my hand, and on the turn there is still button to overcalldown (new term) with AA/KK/JJ/whatever, so calling there is perfect. river is cool w/ nuts.

isn't it funny how SB should be folding trip queens medium kicker to your river raise there? i mean, you never bluff there.
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Did I lose value on the Turn?

maybe so miles but I don't think anyone has folded trips ever in the history of lhe

edit: slight exaggeration since I know I've folded trips occasionally, but if I was villain with JQ there I'd make you show me the fh 100% of the time even if I know I'm screwed
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:02 PM
pegboy pegboy is offline
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Default Re: Did I lose value on the Turn?

i also call the flop to keep the family together. Given the action the turn is a close call/raise for me. Seems as if the button is either going to fold no matter or go crazy no matter so I guess I raise the turn and call a reraise.

Fold the river...kidding.

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isn't it funny how SB should be folding trip queens medium kicker to your river raise there? i mean, you never bluff there.

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Like you "never" bluff there MD?!?!
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:17 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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maybe so miles but I don't think anyone has folded trips ever in the history of lhe

edit: slight exaggeration since I know I've folded trips occasionally, but if I was villain with JQ there I'd make you show me the fh 100% of the time even if I know I'm screwed

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im just saying its amusing, not that anyone actually makes the right play.
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:22 PM
Absolution Absolution is offline
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Default Re: Did I lose value on the Turn?

In this spot nobody folds the trips, but there are plenty of times when you should fold trips or a set.
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:36 PM
FlyHigh2Day FlyHigh2Day is offline
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Default Re: Did I lose value on the Turn?

thanks for the input guys, just getting started with the 6 max lhe so good to hear more experienced opinions, I like the line of slow playing the flop the more I look at it. By the way, what could the button have possibly 3 bet the flop with and fold to 1 bet on the turn?
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Old 06-16-2007, 10:51 PM
kaby kaby is offline
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Default Re: Did I lose value on the Turn?

A pocket pair?
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Old 06-16-2007, 11:06 PM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: Did I lose value on the Turn?

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A pocket pair?

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AK, JJ, AA, KJ, who knows.

If I have AA, I'm not folding this flop though.
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