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Old 11-27-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - AK hits vs unknown

how about raising?
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - AK hits vs unknown

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how about raising?

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What hands that we beat are calling a raise?
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - AK hits vs unknown

weak aces, 66-KK, bluffs
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - AK hits vs unknown

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weak aces, 66-KK, bluffs

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Those are hands that he might be making his turn bet with. I'm asking what actually calls if we raise. (IMO, all of those will fold and we gain nothing.)
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - AK hits vs unknown

The stats make him out to be a station, so I think a raise gets value from AQ-AT as long as you don't make it too large, which is a big part of his range here imo. Also 66 might call with its draw. Flatting is also ok, though, if you don't think he'll call two more streets with an ace.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - AK hits vs unknown

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The stats make him out to be a station, so I think a raise gets value from AQ-AT as long as you don't make it too large, which is a big part of his range here imo. Also 66 might call with its draw. Flatting is also ok, though, if you don't think he'll call two more streets with an ace.

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If he's a station then it's even scarier to me that he's donking the turn, that usually means he's picked up 2pair or a straight.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - AK hits vs unknown

The size of the bet made me think that he was more likely to buy a cheap showdown. 18 VPIP players very rarely have a 2 in their hand here, and I doubt he ever has 2 pair. The only hands I'm worried about are 44 and 55. If you raise and he comes over the top, it becomes an easy fold.

I guess I could be wrong, though, because if he's not calling both a turn raise and river bet with his Ax hands, then a flat could be better. I see where you're coming from.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - AK hits vs unknown

I don't think you get enough calls from weaker hands by raising the turn. I'd call and let him bluff the river planning to call depending on the size of the bet.
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