changed my mind about michael vick, slap on wrist only

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All the people arguing if the dogs were killed for training or for profit are both right.

It's common practice for a someone working for the company, usually involved in the development, to join the surgeon on a few operations when offering a new surgical implant. They work together, in effect they both get training from the experience. If the surgeon feels comfortable with it and thinks it will benefit his or her patients then its sold, so it's a sales pitch as well.

For orthopaedic and minor surgery this is done on a live patients so the surgeon can easily switch back to the old product if needed without too much fuss. It's different with vascular cases, because they are cutting blood supplies to vital organs, every second counts so animal trials are necessary for each surgeon.

I hope this clears some stuff up. I've witness a few of these operations with orthopaedic stuff, never with dogs but I know it goes on.

I'm still not sure why they have to kill them afterword [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I think michael vick should get slap on wrist at most.

why?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04022007/new..._dan_mangan.htm

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April 2, 2007 -- Judith Giuliani once demonstrated surgical products for a controversial medical-supply company that used dogs - which were later killed - in operations whose only purpose was to sell equipment to doctors, The Post has learned.

"It was a horribly cruel, outrageous program," Friends of Animals President Priscilla Feral said about the demonstrations of medical staplers on dogs conducted by U.S. Surgical Corp. employees during Giuliani's tenure there in the late 1970s.

Feral said U.S. Surgical's demonstrations on hundreds of dogs each year through the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s were done to boost sales, not for medical re search or testing.

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alternately I think these ceo's and workers should do jail time.
in the interest of the fair application of the law.

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Dude, rent "Something the lord made." Did you realize that open heart surgery would not have been possible without killing (testing the procedure) on tons of dogs first? Did you not realize that this was common practice for various types of surgical procedures?

Torturing dogs (ie strangling them) is not the same as anesthetizing them and testing on them. They were in no pain and were probably treated very humanely.

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Yeah, I've seen that movie. Also, Transformers was pretty sweet, you should check it out. Both have about equal relationship to the OP or the points being discussed.