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Old 11-28-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default What\'s the proper action?

Playing in a home game and there is a raise by the UTG. Several people call and when the action is back to the Big Blind the dealer assumed he called (he did say or do anything yet) and deals the flop. The Big Blind complains and says he wanted to raise (he hadn't even called yet). I have heard of redealing a card after putting one back in the deck but what about a whole flop?
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: What\'s the proper action?

Pull back the flop, let the BB act, shuffle the stub (including the flop, but not the burn), cut, no burn, deal flop.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: What\'s the proper action?

These kind of things are governed by common sense for the general rule and poker sense for the specifics.

Obviously, BB has the right to fold, call or raise. And he can't do that seeing the flop cards. Thus, the flop cards are no good, BB now acts and we get new flop cards.

So how do we get new flop cards? Well we put the old ones back into the stub, shuffle and get three brand new ones. (Note: Stub is the unused portion of the deck.)

That was an easy question. A hard one would be what if UTG now moved all-in and somebody called before BB could speak up?
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: What\'s the proper action?

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A hard one would be what if UTG now moved all-in and somebody called before BB could speak up?

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... because UTG is allowed to act out of turn, on the pseudo-flop?

Nope, wasn't hard at all [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: What\'s the proper action?

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These kind of things are governed by common sense for the general rule and poker sense for the specifics.

Obviously, BB has the right to fold, call or raise. And he can't do that seeing the flop cards. Thus, the flop cards are no good, BB now acts and we get new flop cards.

So how do we get new flop cards? Well we put the old ones back into the stub, shuffle and get three brand new ones. (Note: Stub is the unused portion of the deck.)

That was an easy question. A hard one would be what if UTG now moved all-in and somebody called before BB could speak up?

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Thanks for the answer - actually, the UTG did make a reraise and that is when all hell broke loose. They ended up giving everyone their money back and starting the hand over. I was arguing that only the flop should have been redealt as suggested.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:07 PM
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A hard one would be what if UTG now moved all-in and somebody called before BB could speak up?

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... because UTG is allowed to act out of turn, on the pseudo-flop?

Nope, wasn't hard at all [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Oops, meant SB moves in... really... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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