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Old 06-09-2007, 02:50 AM
JOHNY CA$H JOHNY CA$H is offline
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Our country is [censored]. Too much government, shtty state funded elemet and secondary education, excessive welfare. Although societies inherently take away some of people's ability to be selfustaining, does anyone really deserve more than this?
-Principle based contract enforcement system
-Adequate national defense
-Basic nutrititave food rations
-A indoor cot and clean shower
-Prenatal/prevatative/early development healtcare
-Equitably funded education opportunities

Hilary seems to think we owe people more. WTF?!
No one has any fing idea what (if?) Barak thinks.
Rebubs are all fing corupt or religiously mystified.

Out country is [censored] and will get much worse. Does the election really matter?

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Your choice to misspell so many words was a brilliant way to illustrate the effect of insufficient funding on the public school system.
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Old 06-09-2007, 02:51 AM
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Once you go Barak, you never go back...
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Old 06-09-2007, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: If Hillary wins the nomination would Obama accept a VP?

Wes Clark ?
He will not be anyone's running mate, because nobody will ask him. In case you missed it, he ran a totally inept campaign last time. He is not on any radar screen. Not a chance.
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: If Hillary wins the nomination would Obama accept a VP?

What election are you guys following that would make you think that Hillary would select Gore (she absolutely won't offer and he would never accept--- never) or Vilsack or Clark ? This is crazy talk. Not a chance any of those 3 end up on ANYBODY'S ticket. Gore would never accept VP again....the other 2 are political lightweights who bring nothing. Hillary doesn't need or want Clark around. Honestly.....how could you even think these guys would be considered ?
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:04 AM
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Clark is close to the Clintons, brings a white southern moderate male to the ticket and ups the Military value up like whoa. I think people like Vilsack and Bayh are higher up for Hillary, but i have no doubts Wes Clark would be on that short list.
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Old 06-09-2007, 12:54 PM
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Why would Hillary need a "white southern moderate male" on the ticket when she is running as a white southern moderate herself ? Hillary doesn't need or want a military guy as running mate. She got herself on the Armed Services Committee so that she wouldn't have to resort to pandering to guys like Clark. And the left wants nothing to do with the military, except to disband it. Wes Clark would be a disaster for Hillary. Sorry, but if Wes Clark is announced as being on Hillary's short list, it is only as a favor to Clark. This is a guy that brings nothing to the table for Hillary, and has not shown an ounce of political skill.
Vilsack was out of the race so fast, most people never knew he was in. He has absolutely no following. A huge pile of nothing.
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Old 06-09-2007, 01:18 PM
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Why would Hillary need a "white southern moderate male" on the ticket when she is running as a white southern moderate herself ?

[/ QUOTE ]Wait, what?
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Old 06-09-2007, 01:29 PM
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Why would Hillary need a "white southern moderate male" on the ticket when she is running as a white southern moderate herself ?

[/ QUOTE ]Wait, what?

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Well, she's got a lock on the white and moderate parts. I dunno if 15 years in Arkansas qualifies her as a Southerner, but its close.
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Old 06-09-2007, 02:55 PM
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The left wants to disband the military? Who the hell said that? Maybe Dennis Kucinich does, but the vast majority of Democrats and/or liberals do not.

As for Clark not being viable, i dont see how any one can think that. Did he do a good job campaigning last time? No, but now he has experience doing it and will have a top team to help him out. He also has a huge grassroots following which will help Hillary alot. And even with her Armed Services Committe experience, people do not think she has alot of military knowledge, whether that thinking is right or wrong it doesnt matter. Adding someone like Clark would open the ticket more in Iowa, Missouri etc.

Vilsack is basically auditioning for the role right now. Hes been campaigning non stop for Clinton since he dropped out. He does not bring much, but is very unoffensive, is a Governor and would bring Iowa along with him.
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Old 06-09-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: If Hillary wins the nomination would Obama accept a VP?

I guess you haven't noticed, but the left (that doesn't mean all Democrats) has nothing but contempt for the military. I know...they say things like "We support the troops" and "They are brave men and women". Then they bar military recruiters from high school and college campuses, ban ROTC and try to cut the military budget in every way imaginable. But they really love the military, and believe it is honorable to serve. Just don't want it in their neighborhood.
Or they make remarks about how if students don't do well in school, they end up in Iraq (yeah, I know....that was just a botched joke....like when he said US soldiers in Iraq were "kicking in doors in the middle of the night, terrorizing women and children"....or when he said troops in Vietnam were maiming, killing and cutting off limbs of civilians. Just a misunderstanding. After all, how could someone who served have thoughts like that ? And he has said many times that he supports the troops.

But that is really a whole other matter. Neither Clark or Vilsack have a prayer of being on anyone's ticket. Vilsack is campaigning for a cabinet post, and Clark is old news, and he wasn't interesting news when he was a fresh face.
Hillary may not be able to turn Obama aside when the time comes, but it is too early to know that. Of course, there are many who think the candidate will end up being Obama, not Hillary. And Obama would not choose Hillary as runningmate. Nobody would. Except maybe Clark or Vilsack
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