Weirdest JJ I've played in a while

[Ansky]

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given the stack pf of shorty, i'd def reraise pf. im curious why u didnt?

[/ QUOTE ]utg prob has like QQ+ since he's utg, so he's tryign to spike a set

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LOL U SO FUNNY

[billyjex]

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given the stack pf of shorty, i'd def reraise pf. im curious why u didnt?

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no good reason not to reraise preflop

[DJ Sensei]

call preflop is alright, if it'll get BB to stick around with a worse hand and pay you off more. generally though, I think reraising here is better.

flop, i prefer a lead of about 1/3-1/2 shorty's stack (if thats a reasonable amount) so that BB can call that, shorty pushes, and you can come back over the top to push out BB and take his dead moneys.

turn... i guess theres not much else you can do.

river is fine. he'll often fold, and if he doesnt thats cool.

[donkey]

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flop, i prefer a lead of about 1/3-1/2 shorty's stack (if thats a reasonable amount) so that BB can call that, shorty pushes, and you can come back over the top to push out BB and take his dead moneys.


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ya that sounds really sweet if it works. my line of choice would be to openpush and have BB call with 23off and shorty instacall with 44.

[cero_z]

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Why didn't you reraise pf to get it all in with shorty?

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I agree that's the default play. In this case, I decided to call, because I was under the impression that shorty was very tight. I didn't feel like I had a very +EV situation shoving against his range (though it's certainly slightly +EV at worst). I decided to call and see the flop, where I might get him to shove or pay off with much less equity. I didn't have a ton of hands on him, but his pfr was 9. I figured that for opening UTG, he'd be tighter than that. How do people feel about that thinking?

As far as MDMA's comment that my river bet was too small, I felt like it painted the picture of a Q, without risking my whole stack on the off chance the BB held a Q. I don't think most people fold for a pot bet ever, whereas double-pot bets in small pots are rarely bluffs, it seems. I think I'd usually bet the pot or shove if I did have a Q, unless someone had seen one of my 2 x pot bluffs get caught. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Anyway, the BB actually held QT and of course called. Funny that playing this hand differently at many different points would've alternately led me to win a small pot, chop with the shorty, or lose my whole stack (if me and the BB played fast on the flop). Then, I also could've easily lost practically nothing, instead of 400.

Thanks for the comments; feel free to add anything else.

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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Funny that playing this hand differently at many different points would've alternately led me to win a small pot, chop with the shorty, or lose my whole stack (if me and the BB played fast on the flop). Then, I also could've easily lost practically nothing, instead of 400.

Thanks for the comments; feel free to add anything else.

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Party has continuous shuffle, so the next cards would have been different if you'd taken a different line, and hence you probably wouldn't have lost a big pot too often against QT.

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I think I like a lead here on the flop.

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[fslexcduck]

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Funny that playing this hand differently at many different points would've alternately led me to win a small pot, chop with the shorty, or lose my whole stack (if me and the BB played fast on the flop). Then, I also could've easily lost practically nothing, instead of 400.

Thanks for the comments; feel free to add anything else.

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Party has continuous shuffle, so the next cards would have been different if you'd taken a different line, and hence you probably wouldn't have lost a big pot too often against QT.

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translation:

your donkey ass acts a little quicker and you pair the board and ship his stack.

[cero_z]

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translation:

your donkey ass acts a little quicker and you pair the board and ship his stack.

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Doh! cerowned.

[Jeff W]

I'd reraise pre flop. Post flop, I'd lead flop for $90 to whipsaw BB and evade a check behind from shorty.