Weirdest JJ I've played in a while

cero_z · #1 09-05-2006, 06:13 PM

I thought this one was interesting.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB :#A500AF(Villain)/ (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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MP ($3330.86)
Button ($1000)
Hero ($4925.57)
BB (Villain): ($990)
UTG (Shortstack): ($210)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $5.
UTG (Shortstack)/ raises to $30, 2 folds, Hero (poster) calls $25, (Villain) calls $20.

Flop: ($90) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Villain checks, Shortstack checks.

Turn: ($90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $35, Shortstack folds, Hero calls $35.

River: ($160) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $320.

MDMA · #2 09-05-2006, 06:16 PM

I think you played it fine up until river, but I don't really get that bet at all, he's gonna call or raise, I don't see him folding here (or rarely) ever for that amount.

You should either bet more or check imo.

donkey · #3 09-05-2006, 06:25 PM

i think it's fine. on a board like this i see people folding to river overbets almost always (unless they dislike you / are tilting / etc). given the way the hand went down there's no reason at all for them not to give you credit for a Q.

MDMA · #4 09-05-2006, 06:41 PM

Or well actually, bet more or check is wrong, this bet is fine (there's not that much risk and if people fold enough it's obv better than checking), but I would still have made it slightly more, I think this is just in the range where people make the crying call much more often, than for instance if you bet 400, like some psyschological thing.

good2cu · #5 09-05-2006, 06:50 PM

I think I like a lead here on the flop.

MDMA · #6 09-05-2006, 06:51 PM

Good2cu, I don't think anyone doubted that leading the flop is very standard as well, that wasn't really the question cero had, I'm sure.

Enon · #7 09-05-2006, 06:55 PM

Why didn't you reraise pf to get it all in with shorty?

Ansky · #8 09-05-2006, 07:09 PM

given the stack pf of shorty, i'd def reraise pf. im curious why u didnt?

Keepitsimple · #9 09-05-2006, 07:15 PM

also really interested in your pf decision. I love to get it allin vs shorty here.

captZEEbo · #10 09-05-2006, 07:23 PM

[ QUOTE ]
given the stack pf of shorty, i'd def reraise pf. im curious why u didnt?

[/ QUOTE ]utg prob has like QQ+ since he's utg, so he's tryign to spike a set