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Old 10-08-2007, 10:09 AM
DZgroundhog DZgroundhog is offline
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Default Bad player goes south...

1-2NL 100max; it's pretty late at night so a lot of tables are breaking. A guy gets moved to our table and brings a stack of about $425 with him. After an orbit or so, it's pretty obvious that he luckboxed his way into those chips because he dumped off at least $150. At this point, he grabs two stacks of red (leaving $50ish on the table) and heads to the cage. The dealer asks if he's done for the night and he says that he's not, he's just cashing out $200. Everybody lets him know that he can't do that so he puts his chips back on the table and keeps playing.

But during the very next hand, I notice that he's counting his chips and he only has about $125 in front him...so he obviously went south. I mentioned it to a player sitting next to me and he agreed that there should have been more chips in front of him.

But now we have an interesting choice. This guy's girlfriend had been sitting behind him for a while and was visibly annoyed that she was still at the casino. So if we mention something to the dealer or floor, this guy almost definitely says something like "F you guys, I'm out of here" and racks up. We decided to just let him keep his $100 or so in chips in pocket and let him lose the rest of his stack to the table. FWIW, I think if this had happened earlier in the night, we call him on it.

He ended up winning a couple pots to get his stack up to $200, then probably went south for $25 more before losing the rest of his stack.

What do you guys do in this situation?
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Bad player goes south...

I assume if he hadn't donked it off and doubled up off you, you would have tried to retrospectively get him punished?

So speak up at the time every time. You can't rely on him donking them off
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Bad player goes south...

What do I do in that situation? I do what you did. Do a little mental EV calculation and situational assessment and decide whether I'm better off saying something or not.

I've been in a game where a kid lucked his way from $100 to $600 and then tried to take $400 off. Folks called him on it and he replied "then I gotta go--I can't risk this much money" and the table universally agreed to let him stay. He lost the $200 and bought back for $200. Lost that and bought back for $200. Lost that and left. Very +EV decision.

Hint: If you're the guy trying to go south and the table decides to let you do it... you should leave NOW. (Insert Rounders quote here.) [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:51 PM
warrantofice warrantofice is offline
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Default Re: Bad player goes south...

Is this the one?
MIKE: Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you ARE the sucker.

or is it this one?
MIKE: Amarillo Slim, the greatest proposition gambler of all time, held to his father's maxim: You can shear a sheep many times, but skin him only once.

could it be this?
MIKE: Generally, the rule is, the nicer the guy, the poorer
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:32 PM
FlyinJ FlyinJ is offline
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Default Re: Bad player goes south...

Had a guy at the table who built his $100 buyin to about $435. He said he was going to cash some of the chips in and the dealer told him they had to stay on the table. So he took $400 and pushed it to one side and had $35 right in front of him. About 3 hands later an early position raises to $15. Player who tried to go south says "OK' I'll go all in" and throws his $35 in. Everyone folds and original raiser pushes a large stack in an and flips his two aces. Board is dealt and the aces hold the dealer asks for the $400 the guy has left and he goes crazy. He said "You saw me seperate this from my other stack. I was only playing the $35. he is still talking about how he got screwed by the dealer.
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