Big Chip Rule in Cash Games?

[atrainpsu]

#1 is a call

As for #2, I have seen many dealers allow it to be a raise, if it was clearly their intention. I'm pretty sure this is incorrect though.

I think the rulings would be as follows...
Next player tosses out:
a)1 $5 chip = call unless he was unaware of the raise
b)2 $1 chips = no action, he was unaware of the raise
c)1 $25 chip = call
d)1 $1, 1 $25 chip = raise to $26
e)2 $5 chips = call
f)1 $1, 2 $5 = raise to $11

[punkass]

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The first one is definitely a call, assuming he didn't say raise. No question.

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What if he said nothing & slid out a stack of redbirds ($100)? Call or raise?

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Then it's a raise to 100. This is a totally different situation than the big chip rule.

[Brad1970]

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The first one is definitely a call, assuming he didn't say raise. No question.

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What if he said nothing & slid out a stack of redbirds ($100)? Call or raise?

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Then it's a raise to 100. This is a totally different situation than the big chip rule.

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How so? He bet more than 2x the size of the last bet. That's a raise. He had reds & whites if he wanted to just call, then he could have used those. The intent was to raise obviously.

[VOX]

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The first one is definitely a call, assuming he didn't say raise. No question.

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What if he said nothing & slid out a stack of redbirds ($100)? Call or raise?

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Then it's a raise to 100. This is a totally different situation than the big chip rule.

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How so? He bet more than 2x the size of the last bet. That's a raise. He had reds & whites if he wanted to just call, then he could have used those. The intent was to raise obviously.

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One chip =/= a stack of chips.

[soah]

1 is a call, 2 is a raise, and there's really not any room for debate (assuming that 10 is the legal minimum raise in this room rather than 12)

[TheJacob]

They are both clearly calls.
If you toss out 2 $5 chips after someone has raised to $6 its a call unless you announce it a raise.

The way it should be determined is if you have any additional chips after the required amount to call.
For example 2 $5 chips is the required amount to be able to call $6 hence it is a call.
However, 3 $5 chips is too many and should be ruled a raise whether you announce it or not.

[NickMPK]

#1 is clearly a call.

As for #2, I asked the exact same question in a thread a couple months ago. It seemed like the majority opinion was that this was a call, but there was some disagreement, and no one could really cite a rule to support the "call" position. As a practical matter, I have never seen this interpreted as anything other than a call, and I have never seen any disagreement about this at the table.

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The first one is definitely a call, assuming he didn't say raise. No question.

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What if he said nothing & slid out a stack of redbirds ($100)? Call or raise?

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Then it's a raise to 100. This is a totally different situation than the big chip rule.

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Brad, I don't understand how you don't get it. Here's a snippet from Bob Ciaffone's rules of Poker Dealing:
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15. If you put a single chip in the pot that is larger than the bet , but do not announce a raise , you are assumed to have only called. Example: In a $3-$6 game, when a player bets $6 and the next player puts a $25 chip in the pot without saying anything, that player has merely called the $6 bet .

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The rule is the rule, there is no argument here.

That being said, it's not left to interpretation period. If you dont' declare you actions when it could be construed differently by different people, you are bound to the minimum action, in this case call. And to reiterate what punkass wrote, If you "slid a stack of reds" like you say above, then I think everyone would know that's a raise and it will be treated as such.

[SNOWBALL]

How about you stop angle shooting and let people act according to their intent? It's very clear in both cases what the intent is.

[Quadstriker]

This is the easiest rule in the book.

One oversized chip with no words = call.