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Old 08-29-2007, 07:27 AM
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Default $50fo FTP $7.5k, AK on the button

14 players left to start the hand. Both villians are basically TAG, with the sb being the looser of the two. My image is LAG

Full Tilt Poker Game #3398464881: $7,500 Guarantee (25454396), Table 3 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:23:01 ET - 2007/08/29
Seat 1: ChipnaChrrrr (18,908)
Seat 3: n0tvalid (16,141)
Seat 5: cubroc (48,795)
Seat 6: el2ik (24,533)
Seat 7: pokerfields (29,998)
Seat 8: dcampbell_32 (59,481)
Seat 9: anujieairplane (11,759)
ChipnaChrrrr antes 100
n0tvalid antes 100
cubroc antes 100
el2ik antes 100
pokerfields antes 100
dcampbell_32 antes 100
anujieairplane antes 100
n0tvalid posts the small blind of 400
cubroc posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChipnaChrrrr [Ks Ac]
el2ik folds
pokerfields folds
dcampbell_32 folds
anujieairplane folds
ChipnaChrrrr raises to 2,222
n0tvalid raises to 16,041, and is all in
cubroc raises to 29,860
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:54 AM
4CardStraight 4CardStraight is offline
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Default Re: $50fo FTP $7.5k, AK on the button

Im guessing neither of these guys makes this play with AQo, or anything. TAGs, betting their whole stack to win 10%, and two of em... I can muck AKo here. I sure as heck wouldnt show them it. I certainly wouldnt do it against someone that could 3bet me wide, or someone that makes plays.

Heres the problem. It only takes one of them having a top 4% hand and we dont have enough equity to make a pot odds call three ways.

Hand 0: 28.091% 20.11% 07.98% 1331832 528752.00 { AKo }
Hand 1: 28.675% 26.28% 02.40% 1740679 158649.83 { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 2: 43.234% 36.45% 06.79% 2413933 449699.83 { 99+, AQs+, AKo }

So if either player has a top 4% hand, we really dont want to take this here. If they are both really quite TAG, and neither really makes plays, I think you can find a muck with AKo.

As an interesting aside, look how much being suited adds to your position here

Hand 0: 31.822% 24.34% 07.48% 532977 163839.00 { AKs }
Hand 1: 27.217% 25.02% 02.21% 547715 48282.83 { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 2: 40.960% 34.61% 06.36% 757703 139267.67 { 99+, AQs+, AKo }

If were against a 10% and 4% hand, being suited brings us up to a reasonable pot odds call here. If they are narrower than that, like top 5% and top 3%, we can fold AKs too, but I sure wouldnt like it. The fact that I am on the button here would make me call with AKs pretty fast I think, theres got to be at least SOME chance they are moving on my button raise.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:03 AM
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Default Re: $50fo FTP $7.5k, AK on the button

I would probably have put Villain 1 on a slightly wider range, but Villain 2 is probably tighter than that, which suggests fold even more.
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