i suck at this spot, KK

oh boy · #1 11-10-2007, 03:05 PM

villain is tag 18/13 he seems standard/not running crazy.

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SB ($502.45)
Hero ($242.90)
UTG ($186)
MP ($305.10)
Button ($181)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $8, 3 folds, Hero raises to $28, UTG calls $20.

Flop: ($57) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $38, UTG raises to $120,

i dont beat much here

TheJokerIsWild · #2 11-10-2007, 03:06 PM

Stick it in and hope for AQ or flush draw, but probably lose to QQ.

Clever Nickname · #3 11-10-2007, 03:12 PM

Just stick it in. You can't fold KK here in a reraised pot.

oh boy · #4 11-10-2007, 03:32 PM

i understand im not suppose to fold KK in reraised pot but it seems im SA/WB. i mean he's pretty nitty and i really dont think there are that many hands in his range that i am beating here.

TheJokerIsWild · #5 11-10-2007, 03:41 PM

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i understand im not suppose to fold KK in reraised pot but it seems im SA/WB. i mean he's pretty nitty and i really dont think there are that many hands in his range that i am beating here.

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I agree with you and that's why I said stick it in and probably lose to QQ. I think it's really really close and folding is not a bad option. I seriously think this can go either way, but I like pushing.

What was the result?

scallop · #6 11-10-2007, 03:43 PM

You are never slightly ahead. You are either WA/WB.

I think you can fold this. I mean his stats sugest he is pretty standard. He might not even call a 3-bet w AQ.

dergitarrist · #7 11-10-2007, 03:49 PM

I'll never fold in this spot, no matter against whom.. Even 18/13 nit-tags get fed up if you push them around too much and might call slightly loose in position.

I end up giving him QQ+, AQs, AQo, AsKs, KQs, QJs, KQo which you're 62:38 against. Call that optimistic and take away the QJ and KQ and you're still 52:48 which makes it +ev with the money already in the pot etc. pp.

Folding this is a major mistake, IMO.

On a sidenote.. In this spot, don't see him raising QQ too often. But that may vary depending on your image and your opponent.

Lucky · #8 11-10-2007, 03:52 PM

get the rest in. You're only worried about AA/QQ here. Unlikely he'll play QQ this way, so mostly worried about AA.

But he can have AQ/AcJc/JcTc/JTs. You're probably beaten, but I dont think you're worse than 32% here, especially if he's decent.

sh58 · #9 11-10-2007, 04:22 PM

meh. just get it in, you can't fold this

ikestoys · #10 11-10-2007, 04:24 PM

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i understand im not suppose to fold KK in reraised pot but it seems im SA/WB. i mean he's pretty nitty and i really dont think there are that many hands in his range that i am beating here.

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you got enough of your stack in here to just go with it... you should be playing loose enough to make this profitable.