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Old 12-01-2007, 06:43 AM
WCGRider WCGRider is offline
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Default QQ PF Decision (100 NL)

Original Raiser is unknown, cold caller is one of the best at these stakes imo.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($57.50)
CO ($125.15)
Hero ($99.50)
SB ($94)
BB ($48.95)
UTG ($57.70)
UTG+1 ($96)
MP1 ($65.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero|Button raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $57.7</font>, CO folds, Hero|Button ???

2:1 with QQ vs an unkown, whats the plan?
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: QQ PF Decision

You can't raise to $20 and fold for $37 more.
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:48 AM
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raise smaller and fold to reraise?
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:49 AM
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Wait, converter messed up, i only raiseed to 16 fwiw
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:08 AM
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Default Re: QQ PF Decision

Call. Calling is only a small mistake if he's a TAG, but folding is a huge mistake if he's an idiot.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:41 AM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: QQ PF Decision (100 NL)

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2:1 with QQ vs an unkown

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Pot odds don't really tell the whole story because on a flop of cards all lower than a Q, you are pretty much committing your entire stack post flop if you call for over half your stack preflop. And you certainly can't play for "set value."

So, I think you are in a push/fold situation when UTG reraises to $57.7. And I think folding is better than pushing if you don't have much of a read on a full ring UTG raiser who reraised for over half the effective stacks. I think he shows up with KK-AA too often to push.

Now, if you think this guy pulls this line and calls if you push with a range as wide as {JJ+,AQs+,AKo}, then push. But without a read, fold.
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: QQ PF Decision (100 NL)

Albert UTG started the hand with only $57.70. Converter messed up. He pushed for $41.70 more after OPs raise. Pretty standard call IMO.
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: QQ PF Decision (100 NL)

Given that he's a shortstack, yeah, I'm stacking off here.
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:21 AM
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Autocall if UTG is anything but an uber nit.
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:23 AM
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If he was deeper I'd get away from this, but I think you have to call here considering he's short.
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