30NL - 6 max - KK deep

Ryba · #1 10-04-2007, 11:01 PM

Villain is 38/21/1.5, plays a lot of pots but I haven't seen him 3 bet much. I'm playing TAG 22/17/3. Not my standard preflop but this deep 4beting and him pushing would suck. On river i was pretty certain he doesnt have the flush or a Ten, so value town?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $74.25
BTN: $70.25
SB: $60.15
BB: $68.90
Hero (UTG): $115.30
MP: $31.40

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $1.05, MP folds, CO raises to $3.60, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.55

Flop: ($7.65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $7.65, Hero calls $7.65

Turn: ($22.95) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($22.95) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $15 ?

sightless · #2 10-04-2007, 11:21 PM

aaaaaaaaaaah

MaltbyStu · #3 10-04-2007, 11:22 PM

When I have KK I kinda don't care how deep we are I just want to get as much in PF as I can. I would definitely
4-bet PF here.

As played I find it difficult to narrow his hand since this could be a standard c-bet here. You calling could look strong to him but when he checks on the turn I think the possibility that he has a hand you beat increases somewhat.

I think a value bet on the river is mandatory and call me weak but I could lay it down to a raise considering a lot of draws just came in.

corsakh · #4 10-04-2007, 11:22 PM

Should not be playing with scared moneys.

creamfillin · #5 10-04-2007, 11:24 PM

Yea 4-bet PF. How come the only time you start betting is when things get really scary for your hand? You're very deep, but it doesn't mean you should go into hyper passive mode with the second best starting hand in hold-thems.

Ryba · #6 10-04-2007, 11:46 PM

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Should not be playing with scared moneys.

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i'm a little girl [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

wslee00 · #7 10-04-2007, 11:48 PM

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How come the only time you start betting is when things get really scary for your hand?

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I lol'ed

john voight · #8 10-05-2007, 01:05 AM

i rather bet turn, and chek river.

Also you should repop PF.

Poorly played IMO.

Shattered · #9 10-05-2007, 02:01 AM

Repop preflop, or bet/check-raise flop. You shouldn't be afraid to 4-bet or even get it all in with KK against a 38/21 unless he literally never shows aggression PF after someone else raises.
If you think you have him beat, valuebet him *before* every possible draw hits the board: He's much likelier to call you with a hand you beat. Besides, what are you trying to extract from on the river? QQ and JJ?

Leviathan101 · #10 10-05-2007, 04:08 AM

as played.
4 bet pre

flop is fine.

turn I lead.

River I'll probably bet/fold.