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Old 09-06-2007, 05:19 AM
MrWooster MrWooster is offline
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Default 10NL TPWK vs manic

Villain is 51/22 and very aggro - I am pretty sure I butchered this hand but I am certain villain does not have a K here - please advise on all streets... - maybe a turn raise would be best?


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($19.94)</font>
UTG ($6.44)
MP ($14.69)
CO ($9.90)
Button ($5.91)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($25.49)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.30) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.3</font>, Hero calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30.

Turn: ($1.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.6</font>, Hero calls $0.60, CO folds.

River: ($2.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2.4</font>, Hero ...
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Old 09-06-2007, 07:11 AM
Ramana Ramana is offline
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Default Re: 10NL TPWK vs manic

No need to raise imo. Fold river.
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Old 09-06-2007, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: 10NL TPWK vs manic

as played i think i fold river...as u say he is agressive i might raise the flop to ~1.1 as its cheaper than the turn and hopefully isolate him in position and also get info as to where he is
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:06 AM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default Re: 10NL TPWK vs manic

raise the flop for many multiple purpose
as played..
fold the river
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: 10NL TPWK vs manic

What "purposes"? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:47 AM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default Re: 10NL TPWK vs manic

get value from the worst hand
charge him for draws
find out where you are..
and u have position... etc
anymore else?
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:53 AM
corsakh corsakh is offline
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Default Re: 10NL TPWK vs manic

What worse hands?
Ye.. Hm wait. He pots flop, no?
... is the best way to go broke in poker. With glory of course [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Nice observation but I don't follow.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:09 AM
ciro bonano ciro bonano is offline
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Default Re: 10NL TPWK vs manic

When I find such a maniac at my tables I pay careful attention to them, and somewhere decide that top pair, decent kicker is enough against him. Once I get to that point I'm calling three pot-sized bets so I'm also calling this river. It's +EV but also high variance.

Raising anywhere is pointless; he will fold his bluffs, sometimes bluff you back, etc.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: 10NL TPWK vs manic

Do not raise flop!
Call turn only cuz it's a small bet. Otherwise fold.
Definitely fold river.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:35 AM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default Re: 10NL TPWK vs manic

im surprise no one likes raising the flop there,
its a drawy board, and you have position on the aggro,
can i get some reasons why calling is &gt; than raising?
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