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Old 07-19-2007, 08:33 PM
recallme recallme is offline
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Default AK on river and AQ on flop

Villain is tag, no history

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $190
UTG+1: $398
CO: $451.73
Button: $1200
SB: $990
Hero: $1077

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $30</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $110</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($250, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $150</font>, SB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($550, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($550, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $730</font>.

The question is am i good 1/3 of the time?

2. Villain is unknown

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $1775.12
CO: $965
Button: $1577.19
SB: $691
BB: $332

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $35</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($115, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $70</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $210</font>.

If i call on flop i will call on turn, too.
So fold , call call or shove?
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:40 PM
chcheers chcheers is offline
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Default Re: AK on river and AQ on flop

I fold hand 1.

Hand 2 I don't fold because of the flush/straight draws and the fact that it's easier for SB to bluff here last to act.
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:51 PM
higHstaKesOwneR higHstaKesOwneR is offline
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Default Re: AK on river and AQ on flop

1.)
w/o history it is tough...
but i don't think he got the 9 here
i really don't know w/ what kind of hands he 3-bet pf and than c/c the flop
i say he got TT her and trie to get a bet out of you while he is representing JJ-QQ
the turn could be good a missed cr

hm my thouughts might be wrong but i still think a fold isn't wrong specially w/o history
i don't see him bluffing here alot because you should know that the 9 normnally wouldn't helped him


i FOLD


2.)
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it's easier for SB to bluff here last to act.

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yeah but sb isn't every last to act :P
a cr into 3 people looks pretty strong
i fold it even if there are a lot of draws out there until i have a read that villian likes to cr draws
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: AK on river and AQ on flop

1. I would liketo know, what you think he has. Imo ther aren`t many hands, which make sense.

2. He just c/r the preflop raiser on a A high board ( button folded before he acted.
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: AK on river and AQ on flop

Some thoughts here?
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: AK on river and AQ on flop

hand 1. i agree its hard to decide what hand he has given your preflop call is showing a decent amount of strength. personally I fold.

hand 2. i fold, not worth it on this marginal hand. SB has gambled you don't have set or two pair and won.
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: AK on river and AQ on flop

I am really interested in the ranges you put Villain in hand 1/2.

2. I doubt Villain has A2/J2/AA/(JJ)/AK here, or?
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:33 PM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default Re: AK on river and AQ on flop

Hand 1 is really close IMO, and if he's generally uncreative I think it's a fold, since I think he shows up with AA/JJ here a good ammount. I think he bets the flop with TT or 99 though as well as AK/AQ.

Hand 2 I usually call here and get it in on a safe turn. He can really only have 2 hands that beat you here, and there's a bajillion draws he can have.
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: AK on river and AQ on flop

I almost feel like you have to call #1 after checking the turn, but I really have no idea what he could be doing this with. I guess he could have AQ or AK and decided to check the flop for some reason. He also could have JJ I think. I see a lot of players CC flops like this when they probably shouldnt. AJ may also be a possibility. Im kinda doubting 99 and TT though.

Hand 2 I like a fold. You havent invested too much and there is a pretty big chance your beat. If your not beat, he probably is semi-bluffing so your not that far ahead anyway.
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: AK on river and AQ on flop

In hand 2 AJ and 22 are pretty big possibilities though... Or tp and a nut flush draw.
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