i've never had a d-bag like this before....

[TxRedMan]

And i'm pissed that a warning is all he got.

This is the unexaggerated set of events.

Omaha eight or better.

There's a raise and three callers, including the kid in the one seat, SB calls, and I call with any four cards here most of the time. I flop an overpair and an open ended straight draw, and three people call a bet from the kid in the one seat.

On the turn it comes a low brick, and again three people call the bet from the one seat.

On the river the board looks like this

J-10-6-3-Q, and the SB leads out, I fold, and only the kid in the one seat calls. I threw my hand near the muck, facedown, and it was touching the muck but it was still intact. The SB shows the nut straight, and the kid in the one seat goes off about what a terrible play it was and how he had top two on the flop (lol a monster in LO8) and is berating the other player and slowing up the game with his display of BS, and I say to him "your top two weren't any good". He's still holding onto his hand whining so the dealer has yet to scramble the cards and award the pot, and the kid picks my hand up out of the muck and looks at it, blatantly, and gives me a look then mucks both of the hands. Generally I dont say anything ever in a spot like this, but the SB was correct to play his hand the way he did, and the kid in the one seat wouldn't shut up or muck his hand, so i tried to expedite the process.

I immediately asked him WTF his problem was in a loud voice, and the dealer is doing nothing at this time. I look at the dealer, who clearly doesn't want to say anything, and I yell really loud "FLOOR!" and get the floor over there and tell him that he picked up my hand out of the muck after i folded to a river bet.

How can the floor just warn this kid?

The kid shutdown and got really embarrassed when I called him out, I got very aggressive with him, and there was no history as this was his third or fourth hand at the table. He went from FU i'm a tough guy with gold jewelry and a chili bowl to a kid who got caught being a total douche and looked like a spanked puppy or something.

But seriously, this is a huge breech of etiquette. At what point do they give more than a warning?

i.e., if he was about to call a bet at showdown and he just picked up his oppponents cards and look at them before he called/folded, does that get a different ruling, because it's damn near the same thing.

[Meraxes]

From what it seems, douche bags have to actually look at your hand, then wipe thier ass with them to get anything more than a warning.

[youtalkfunny]

You answered your own question:

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How can the floor just warn this kid?

The kid shutdown and got really embarrassed

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I take that to mean, "The kid shut his mouth and behaved himself for the remainder of his time at the table."

A floorman should never give a penalty when a warning will do just fine. It sounds like a warning did the trick.

[Mr Rick]

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But seriously, this is a huge breech of etiquette. At what point do they give more than a warning?

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When a guy cheats in a position to make money or does something violent is usually the line. In this case, the kid got spanked. And he was a bad player. Do you want him banned or do you want his money? A good Floor is usually sensitive to removing players who are potential donors because they don't want to piss off the regulars.

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i.e., if he was about to call a bet at showdown and he just picked up his oppponents cards and look at them before he called/folded, does that get a different ruling, because it's damn near the same thing.

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No - here his hand is declared dead because he cheated. And he probably gets walked out of the casino.

[moris]

There needs to be some kind of penalty for this. Maybe you get to switch seats with him?

[TMTTR]

Why does this deserve more than a warning on the first offense? I am not sure what you want the floor to do... the hand was over.

[davidlong14]

1.) Object as you did.
2.) Immediately stop tipping the dealer for the reamainder of your session.
3.) If punk does it again -- KITN.

[AngusThermopyle]

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But seriously, this is a huge breech of etiquette. At what point do they give more than a warning?



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You want him shot? Flogged? Drawn and quartered? All his chips confiscated and given to Darfur Relief?

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i.e., if he was about to call a bet at showdown and he just picked up his oppponents cards and look at them before he called/folded, does that get a different ruling, because it's damn near the same thing.

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Not

even

close.

[growlers]

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All his chips confiscated and given to Darfur Relief?



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Watch out, if this was at a Harrah's property, they would rake 17% before giving the chips to Darfur relief.

[MicroBob]

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Why does this deserve more than a warning on the first offense? I am not sure what you want the floor to do... the hand was over.

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