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Old 10-12-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default 25/50 Three Bets with Two Jacks

This hand was the first confrontation with villain really. He's a decent winning TAG.

$25/$50 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$3106.00</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$5477.00</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$4011.00</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$4800.00</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$2204.02</font>)

Pre-flop: ($75, 5 players) Hero is CO A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $100</font>, Hero calls $100, BTN calls $100, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $600</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#777777">UTG folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2100</font>, <font color="#777777">BTN folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $4676</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5477</font>, SB calls $124

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10527, 2 players)

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10527, 2 players)

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10527, 2 players)

Final Pot: ($10527)
Hero shows: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB shows: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero wins $9848 ( won $5048.00 )
Hero wins $677 ( won $5048.00 )
UTG lost -$100.00
BTN lost -$100.00
SB lost -$4800.00


Now, this is the VERY NEXT HAND:


$25/$50 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$10525.00</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$3911.00</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$5000.00</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$2154.02</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$3006.00</font>)

Pre-flop: ($75, 5 players) Hero is UTG J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $200</font>, CO calls $200, <font color="#cc0000">BTN raises to $900</font>, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $700, <font color="#777777">CO folds</font>

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2075, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2075, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BTN bets $1237</font>, Hero calls $1237

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4549, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BTN bets $2863</font>, <font color="#0000cc"> $2863 to Hero ($8388)?</font>

Thoughts on pre-flop... taking into consideration we just all in preflop the previous hand. As played, thoughts on river as well please.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Three Bets with Two Jacks

hand1 i cant really blame villian for felting JJ here, since it looks like hes squeezing your line is tricky and looks alot like a medium pair or AK.

when it comes to hand2, given history there is absolutely no way he is reraising light so i would probably fold it preflop, not having odds to call for set value and beeing oop. when he checks behind on that flop it looks alot like AK so you absolutely have to give it up on the turn, putting another chip in the pot is just burning money imo.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Three Bets with Two Jacks

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hand1 i cant really blame villian for felting JJ here, since it looks like hes squeezing your line is tricky and looks alot like a medium pair or AK.

when it comes to hand2, given history there is absolutely no way he is reraising light so i would probably fold it preflop, not having odds to call for set value and beeing oop. when he checks behind on that flop it looks alot like AK so you absolutely have to give it up on the turn, putting another chip in the pot is just burning money imo.

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AJ.. not JJ hand 1


hand 2 i call river as played, against some people 4 betting pre is best but i dont hate your line.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Three Bets with Two Jacks

missread that one.. makes sense to look him up then, anyway either you need to fold on the turn or u call both, turn+river
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Three Bets with Two Jacks

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missread that one.. makes sense to look him up then, anyway either you need to fold on the turn or u call both, turn+river

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yep, i agree with folding turn too though, if u think hes raising u as light as the first hand which i doubt, then i guess it makes sense to look him up because hell check behind aj and aq on that flop a decent amount of the time and the k is too good a card to bluff off a part of ur range, so betting it makes sense. Also, if he raised u with a suited connector which might have hit a weak piece of that board, he might check it behind and once again turn his hand into a bluff with the k. BTW, i think a decent amount of ppl also check behind kings and aces here. Really depends on if u think he is 3 betting light again though, if not, pretty standard fold as only hand he miiight have would be aq but i dunno if ppl always 3bet aq on an utg raiser.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 Three Bets with Two Jacks

I'm shoving PF and call here.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Three Bets with Two Jacks

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I'm shoving PF and call here.

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you know we are deep, right?

Equal I'd fold the turn I think, but as played I def call river, he seems too spewy and suspicious not to look him up here
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Three Bets with Two Jacks

er we're 100bb deep

i would just 4b and get allin preflop, and declare it a cooler if he has a bigger pair.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:51 PM
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i would just 4b and get allin preflop, and declare it a cooler if he has a bigger pair.

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I strongly considered this line, as obviously it's suspicious that he 3-bets me the hand after I stack him with some trickery.
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:03 PM
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i would just 4b and get allin preflop, and declare it a cooler if he has a bigger pair.

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perfect
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