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Old 11-30-2007, 02:30 PM
Myttazz Myttazz is offline
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take all his money and send him to the atm or hopefully he leaves.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:40 PM
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In Vegas in a cash game, I don't recall ever saying anything to anybody about such stuff. There's always another table to play somewhere close by.

In tourneys, it's sometimes a problem. When it's not a huge issue, it generally just gets tolerated. When it IS a real problem with one player ALWAYS taking unreasonable lengths of time, anybody can try to correct it.

In a Mirage tourney eons ago the approach one person took at our table was to just call time on the guy pre-flop after he'd taken 20 seconds for the 10th time in a row. Each hand he'd call for a clock, first after 15 seconds, then 10 seconds, then finally the instant it was the slowpoke's action we heard "CLOCK!" Table got a laugh out of that one and FINALLY the player got the message and did start acting pre-flop within a few seconds.

I've seen dealers use polite and/or humorous comments to speed up a player. And I've seen dealers just break down and spell it out... this is NOT the WSOP, there are NO TV cameras, you did not pay $10,000 to enter the event, and you only have two cards to think about---ACT, DAMMIT!

Whatever works.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:42 PM
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take all his money and send him to the atm or hopefully he leaves.

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Unfort. the cards were on his side while I was there (I on the other hand busted out on set K's over set 8's over set 4's)

Re others: I actually thought about singing "Hooray for Hollywood" everytime he touched the cards, but figured that would be considered rude.

I'm also pretty sure it wasn't his first time, but that he was far from a regular player. Perhaps I should have said something quietly to him.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:00 PM
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If you know his name start referring to him as "slow bob" (or whatever his name is). If you act after him don't look at your cards until he has acted, some of these guys do this habitually to see the action after them. Repeatedly say "I'm waiting for slow bob" "come on slow bob" "It's on you slow bob" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If it really is bothering (tilting) you change tables if possible, or quit.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Low Stakes Limit Game - Guy Hollywooding every hand

Why not take him aside quietly, ask him why he is taking so long, and explain low limit protocol. I would nicely tell him you want him to do well, but hes ruining the game for others.

Only after that talk, and obv. If he doesn't stop, should you call floor, call clock, or ridicule. Or just switch tables.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:50 PM
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That usually lasts about 5 minutes with me in the box.

"Sir, it's your action."
"Sir, I need an action."

*friendly tap on the table*

"2 to call, 4 to raise, free to fold."
"Sir, if it was on you what would you do?"

A few straight-up prompts and they usually catch on as to what's expected of them (for the record, it's usually new players who just aren't familiar with live game standards that do this -- it's rarely malicious or intentional, at least in my experience).

If it continues after that, I (or my floor) will usually give them a friendly tap on the shoulder and explain to them (quietly and non-confrontationally): "Sir, this isn't a million dollar tournament, and we do have a rule here against unnecessarily delaying the game. Live limit hold'em is a fast-paced game, and people come here for the action. You're gonna have to pick it up."

If the player still causes problems after that, then floor should ask them to leave for unnecessarily delaying the game.

I have ejected a few players for slowing the game, and I think it's a necessary backstop. However, most of the time I believe that a good dealer who runs their game well should be able get these players to pick it up without turning it into a major confrontation.

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Old 11-30-2007, 05:13 PM
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"Sir, if it was on you what would you do?"

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Ha, that one is good.

I ran into this once at the Paris at 1/2 NL. It was late night and shorthanded, so there were no other tables to go to. This guy was to my right, and never spent less than 45 seconds preflop, squinting at his cards, and surveying the table, even while UTG. While he wasn't agonizing whether to put $2 at risk or not, he was giving formal poker lessons to anyone in earshot. I was somewhat of a newbie myself, so I didn't want to say anything, and was amazed at how everyone ele just sat patiently. He wasn't even much of a fish because he folded almost every hand.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:32 PM
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It just got annoying and people (to his left) actually started acting out of turn and folding their hands (as they were going to regardless of his action).

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There's a guy where I play regularly who does this on purpose. I try to sit to his left and wait. Once I was UTG+1 and then found myself on the button (same hand).

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It got even worse because he stayed in 90% of the hands (usually raising) and would proceed to do the same bit on every street, hollywoodin' it up like he had a really hard decision to make.

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This guy is flat out horrible at poker. Even though you are playing fewer hands, this is a goldmine. Isolate him with good hands and take his money.

There was a guy I played with once who did this. He was dead tired (hadn't slept in 48 hrs), drunk (or at least drinking), Russian (spoke little english), and had to be told how much each bet was (it was limit). Nobody said a word to the dealer, the Floor, or the Russian (except for the occasional "Boris, its $20"). This guy dropped over $2,000 in less than 5 hours. Which is $45/hr per person average in addition to any other profit there might have been (in a 10/20 LHE game this was over 2 BB's/hr just from this guy alone)

What we did do, was start a contest from down to down challenging each dealer to see how many hands he/she could deal in 30 minutes. Amazingly, one dealer hit 24 hands. The low was about 11 hands or so. Just about every dealer participated eagerly and would help in prompting the player to make a quick decision.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:37 PM
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I was in the exact same situation, and I called the floor. The floor asked him to keep up with the game. He didn't. What can the floor do in this spot? Do they have discretion to just boot the guy?
Personally, I don't care how bad the guy is. If it means I only get to play 10 hands per hour, he's killed my winrate.

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Yes. The floor can boot him or ask him to leave for the day or pretty much do what ever they want. The casino is a private business. Now the question is WILL the floor do any of that?
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: Low Stakes Limit Game - Guy Hollywooding every hand

Did he, at any point, ask God to let him win a hand?
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