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Old 11-15-2007, 12:54 PM
Praxising Praxising is offline
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Default Re: Razz - playing a 9

I wouldn't raise 4th, either. If you read him as a regular and good, then what is his read of you? (I'm big on table image.) He could have a very big hand and still not be reraising 3rd if he perceives you as real aggro.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Razz - playing a 9

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I wouldn't raise 4th, either. If you read him as a regular and good, then what is his read of you? (I'm big on table image.) He could have a very big hand and still not be reraising 3rd if he perceives you as real aggro.

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It's probably a true characterisation that I am an over-aggressive donkey in this game.

Anyway, I guess I might be off base in the issue, but I really only think raising here is "very bad" when he has a slowplayed monster. If a weak line is best here I really think I should have just thrown this hand away on 3rd, which I guess maybe is the preferable play according to you guys?

If he had only a slightly better hand than mine, which I read him for, I think raising here is good. Although maybe you disagree on this too?
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Razz - playing a 9

don't raise fourth, bet/call seventh
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:34 PM
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don't raise fourth, bet/call seventh

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3rd is ok, depends on villains tendencies. I often limp along here.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: Razz - playing a 9

I really don't mind 3rd or 4th. Usually a monster limp on 3rd is going for a c/r, and on 4th a lot of players will make this bet trying to represent better than the four card 7 when they don't have it. The raise gives you the info you need for cheap, and after the 3rd bet I guess we have to believe him, but the rest of the hand is fine. 7th is nowhere near close if you are folding this you must be drunk, retarded, high, or some combination of the 3.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:50 PM
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Anyway, I guess I might be off base in the issue, but I really only think raising here is "very bad" when he has a slowplayed monster.

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If he's a good regular, then slowplaying a monster in ep is a definite possibility (even tho I don't think betgo plays 3/6 much). It's a powerful play due to its deception and it obviously worked here. Also, if he's good then he's not betting 4th just b/c the software prompted him to -- he's got a hand, and it's almost always better than yours since you're overrepresenting your holding.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:02 PM
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Also, if he's good then he's not betting 4th just b/c the software prompted him to

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I know you're joking, but this is what I feel that a lot of people do. Just because they have the lower two cards they think they must bet.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:10 PM
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Also, if he's good then he's not betting 4th just b/c the software prompted him to

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I know you're joking, but this is what I feel that a lot of people do. Just because they have the lower two cards they think they must bet.

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lol, it's not a joke. happens all the time.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:13 PM
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I know you're joking, but this is what I feel that a lot of people do. Just because they have the lower two cards they think they must bet.

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I've read enough of his posts -- I don't think he was joking.

(Edited: he beat me to it... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Razz - playing a 9

One note that I make on a player (when I see it, which is rare) is someone who will check-fold a better board than mine. This is such a mark of a solid player that it should never go unnoticed. It's somewhat exploitable if you notice that he never check-raises (reminder: if you can check-fold xxA2 then you better check-call and check-raise some times). It happened to me today, which is why I think of it. I am always wary of players who don't bet when it looks like they're supposed to.
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