Facing An All in with Two Pair

BingBangBoom · #1 03-03-2007, 06:34 AM

I had no particular read on the villan. He had only been around for a few minutes. Thanks for any thoughts on this hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($32.65)
MP1 ($23.75)
MP2 ($32.10)
MP3 ($15.70)
CO ($24.05)
Button ($32.05)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($23.80)
UTG ($8.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 4 folds, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, Button calls $1.25.

Turn: ($4.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25.

River: ($9.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button raises to $27.55..Hero???

and12006 · #2 03-03-2007, 06:36 AM

This is a tough spot, villian hasn't really shown any aggression so far. On the flop bet more and don't check the turn bet clsoe to 3/4 being OOP sucks, I'd probley call the river and hope he didn't play a set weak.

BingBangBoom · #3 03-03-2007, 07:04 AM

yah i folded..i put him on a set becasue i thought AK would have prob been much more agressive..like throwing in a reraise somewhere in that hand

whoisthedrizzle · #4 03-03-2007, 07:13 AM

I'd probably bet closer to 2 on the flop, and lead the turn. As played, I think it's a fold with no particular read on the guy.

BingBangBoom · #5 03-03-2007, 07:22 AM

but what does a 2 dollar bet on the flop accomplish that a slightly smaller bet doesnt? Not trying to sound rude....its an honest question. There were no draws on the board...is it simply for fold equity? Do i want to start building a pot with one pair?

BobAllinSki · #6 03-03-2007, 07:33 AM

good fold in my opinion, the same 2 pair is likely but other than that its going to be a bluff or a set most of the time.

As a side not KQo isnt a great or good hand UTG+1 in a 9 handed game, your probably best to just let it go, most players I know that play 9 max either just call/or fold with it, raising usually just isolates stronger hands out of position, personaly I lean towards the fold as KQo doesnt play multi-way which a unraised pot tends to lead to.

Of course at the micro's the rules often change and you can raise for value UTG but even at $25 you need to have been at the table for a while to know this is the case.

BobAllinSki · #7 03-03-2007, 07:37 AM

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but what does a 2 dollar bet on the flop accomplish that a slightly smaller bet doesnt? Not trying to sound rude....its an honest question. There were no draws on the board...is it simply for fold equity? Do i want to start building a pot with one pair?

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A good rule of thumb to tell if offsuited big cards are playable oop is will you be willing to build a reasonable sized pot if you hit a good flop, if not you should probably drop it pre flop.

freedom18 · #8 03-03-2007, 07:45 AM

just bet the turn and river will lead u to a good conclusion, any c/c c/c c/ai is obv monster =[

_TKO_ · #9 03-03-2007, 03:56 PM

I think your line built a folding opportunity. That is, a fold on the river is probably correct, but c/cing the turn and leading the river smells like [censored].

RAHZero · #10 03-04-2007, 02:07 AM

Wow, I just read through this thread and almost cried. Fold this river?!?!?! This isn't a mouse we're talking about, it's an unknown at NL $25. Can anyone really put him on a range that would make this river fold correct? If we put him on a range of KQ, K7, K4, K2, 77, and 44, we're crushing his range 64-36 here. Throw in the possibility of a bluff, and we have a pretty easy call.