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Old 11-10-2007, 01:47 PM
ranka ranka is offline
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Default NL50: Turn decision - How I can extract more.

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Reads:
CO: 23/8/4.9 -> 243 hands

UTG+1 ($31.95)
MP1 ($49.50)
Hero ($78.30)
CO ($48.75)
Button ($50.20)
SB ($12.80)
BB ($150.35)
UTG ($50.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, CO calls $5, SB folds, BB folds.
<font color="green">Ideal CBET flop - no flush/straight draw and one high card. Because of that I made smaller cbet.</font>

Turn: ($18) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ?
<font color="green">Hero bets or check-raises?</font>
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:00 PM
AllTheCheese AllTheCheese is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Turn decision - How I can extract more.

Man, this is an awkward spot. Your hand isn't as great as you might think it is. It's enough to go broke with, obv, but I'm not surprised if we're beat here. I bet $10 here and call a shove. If he calls, I halfpot river.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Turn decision - How I can extract more.

Just bc he flats the flop doesn't mean we're probably beat here. This can be a large range of PPs planning to steal the pot away on the turn if checked to. I think he's most likely going to bet on the turn, making a CR very doable but if you CR, you are basically announcing you have a J. If you lead again you might fold out hands like 88-TT that he called with on the flop.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Turn decision - How I can extract more.

imo, it's pretty unlikely he called 88-TT on the flop with two players to act behind him and a preflop raiser who just bet into three players. It's especially unlikely for him to be floating because really, what card, besides the board-pairing Jack can he bluff on?
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Turn decision - How I can extract more.

with an af of 4.9 I'm check/raising.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Turn decision - How I can extract more.

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with an af of 4.9 I'm check/raising.

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i agree
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:48 PM
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If you really believe he's floating, you should c/c and c/r river. His calling range for c/r turn has us beat.

Board: Jc Jd 2h 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.623% 38.47% 13.15% 474 162.00 { 77, 22, AJs, KJs, JTs, AJo, KJo }
Hand 1: 48.377% 35.23% 13.15% 434 162.00 { AJs }
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Turn decision - How I can extract more.

I'd c/c turn here. Anything we beat is folding to a c/r, IMO, but if we c/c, we're repping an overpair that he may try to push us off of on the river. Just my .02.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Turn decision - How I can extract more.

Yeah I forgot there were 2 other ppl in the pot. CR is best in that case.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:50 PM
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If you really believe he's floating, you should c/c and c/r river. His calling range for c/r turn has us beat.


[/ QUOTE ]I think c/c and lead river is much better than c/r river because he's going to check behind everything that doesn't have us beat and bet Jacks or better and if we bet he's not folding Jacks or better.
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