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Old 10-23-2007, 03:33 PM
tarath tarath is offline
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Default So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

After my first 65k hands of Nl200 I am .5BB/100 winner. My luck graphs suggest I run like [censored] but even adjusting for bad all-in luck I still should only be a 2BB/100 winner. My BR is currently about 12k. I started playing in july with 500$ and cruised through NL25, NL50, and NL100 at 5BB/100 plus with no trouble so I've never really been stuck like this before.

I play 19/16/3 although I've been playing with a higher AF (and bad results) for the last 20k hands. I don't really have a good sense of what my problem is, I don't feel like I get completely outplayed very often, but obviously I do, or I'd be winning more.

What would you guys recommend?
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:35 PM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default Re: So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

65k is a drop in the bucket in guessing what your true wr is, just try to play well and discuss hands that you find difficult/interesting.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:37 PM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default Re: So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

my Winrate is only 3ptbb now over 45k hands, its 6 at 100NL over 68k hands, while i was much worse at 100NL.. And i feel im crushing it lol, just keep playing and learning i guess.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:37 PM
KhalynYohrk KhalynYohrk is offline
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Default Re: So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

Sounds like you could move down and not learn much, and you arent sure what your leaks are so; spend time analyzing game inside out or get a coach.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:38 PM
hotbacon hotbacon is offline
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Default Re: So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

It's so hard to tell whether you actually have a lot of leaks or not. You could EASILY be a 3+ PTBB/100 winner running bad. 60k hands is nothing, I've run 3 BB under what I normally run for 100k+ hands.
Anyway, find someone to discuss hands with (preferably reputable coach or a friend who's a proven winner), post hands, etc...
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:39 PM
DaycareInferno DaycareInferno is offline
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Default Re: So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

i'd just like to add that luck graphs are crap.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:40 PM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default Re: So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

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I've run 3 BB under what I normally run for 100k+ hands.


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Isnt that stuff caused more by tilt and other stuff then by variance? I just refuse to believe that my winrate can deviate more then like 1-1.5 ptbb over 100k hands.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:40 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

One doesn't just cruise from microstakes to high stakes. One comes across better competition and challenges and sometimes it takes (a lot of) time to learn the lessons that need to be learned.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

move up and make money
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: So the evidence that I suck is pretty strong, what to do about it?

i thought about a coach, then found the PT master sticky.

Zing!
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