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Old 08-29-2007, 03:31 PM
bluffbetter bluffbetter is offline
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Default NL50 2nd pair + straight draw v raiser

Villain is 23.5/23.5/4.5 over 34 hands and his postflop aggression is only 0.5


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($45.95)
SB ($47.75)
Hero ($69.45)
UTG ($50)
MP ($55.65)
CO ($50.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.50, MP folds.

Flop: ($6.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: $6.75

the converters messing me about so what happened on the flop was that I checked, raiser bet $5 and button folded. Hero? I'm thinking he may well be raising with a fairly wide range here to isolate the limper, so a raise is probably the best play, right?
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:38 PM
eastern motors eastern motors is offline
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Default Re: NL50 2nd pair + straight draw v raiser

I would raise because this looks like a c-bet, so you might win the pot right there, and you probably have &gt;50% equity in the pot. You are likely to have 14 outs and almost certainly 8.

EDIT: If he reraises, I would shove (not much more left at that point). You could also fold to a reraise if you were sure he had a set (hard to tell after 40 hands) but calling a reraise would be worthless.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: NL50 2nd pair + straight draw v raiser

Anyone else? Is raise flop and call shove very standard here?
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:51 PM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default Re: NL50 2nd pair + straight draw v raiser

Considering your reads, I doubt he bets without a decent hand, especially not in position.

I like a b3b better than a c/r.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: NL50 2nd pair + straight draw v raiser

I don't like this. I guess with MP in there and Button calling, we can make a case for calling preflop, but I really really really hate playing OOP. Depending on table volume and whatnot, I think I'll often just dump it preflop. If we had a bit more than 34 hands on him, and he still had those stats, I might 3bet this PF.

For the flop, I'd say look at flop aggro/cbet #s, but 34 hands is too few for those. I call and reevaluate turn. With .5 AF he doesn't strike me as the guy that'll bet this turn without having something, he'll just check behind.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:54 PM
wingchunflush wingchunflush is offline
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Default Re: NL50 2nd pair + straight draw v raiser

I dont like calling the raise pf here. This hand plays better multi way. I dont want to call and play this hand oop when I will have to fold to a cbet most of the time. As played I prefer to lead the flop and raise if the opportunity arises.
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