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Old 11-27-2007, 02:52 PM
McMelchior McMelchior is offline
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Default Re: Is this wrong?

"Ethics" must be based on a foundation of ideology. Like from the Nazi's point of view nothing they did was un-ethical, since their (atrocious) acts were based in their ideology (absolutely no comparison, just an illustration).

Back to tournament poker, if the foundation is that "Thou shall not do anything that puts other players at unfair (that is, not skill-related) disadvantage" both descibed scenarios are un-ethical.

Since anybody can (and in the long run eventually will) experience force majeure preventing them from finishing a tournament, but not all players have access to a qualified stand-in, an unfair advantage is gained.

Anyway, since most sites TOS explicitly prohibits stand-ins, and TOS must be considered part of the rules of the game (even for all) breaking them is un-ethical in itself.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:03 PM
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I had a friend who had to leave to pick up his son so he called me to take over for him in a tourney. I never thought twice about it and he was second in chips at the time and I wound up winning the tourney. I do see how in a live tourney this could never happen so why should it online...but...I didnt see anything wrong with it.

Was I wrong?
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:23 PM
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I had a friend who had to leave to pick up his son so he called me to take over for him in a tourney. I never thought twice about it and he was second in chips at the time and I wound up winning the tourney. I do see how in a live tourney this could never happen so why should it online...but...I didnt see anything wrong with it.

Was I wrong?

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Live poker is also one person to a hand, online poker isn't.

You can't go about comparing one exactly to the other, they're different animals.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:48 PM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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If the situation is a legitimate case of being unable to play, I think it's fine ethically.

So fine, ethically.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:07 PM
djcarter66 djcarter66 is offline
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Ethically OK since there was no plan ahead of time that one player would take over if the other one busted and something came up forcing one player to leave.

Legally I think most Terms and Conditions say the same player can't play the same tourney under different names which is technically what is happening.

On a side note if the player that takes over goes on to do well in the tourney is it customary to get some percentage or agree to X% ahead of time? I know it's kinda sticky becasue if the guys that takes over tubes it he would not expect to pay up for lost value since player would have blinded out anyway.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:49 PM
Weezey Baby Weezey Baby is offline
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Nothing that wrong, done it a bunch of times for players and had it done for me as well. When something comes up, something comes up.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:23 PM
Warbuff Warbuff is offline
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I have a dentist appointment anyone wanna cover for me I'm 3rd in chips lol
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